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Old 12-09-2013, 08:28 PM   #41
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I see no way Robinson is ever a top 2 round pick. I also think his NFL future is at either RT or even more likely inside. Absolutely no way that kid is a NFL LT unless he really really develops over the next year.
there is no way he gets drafted....
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1 being worst and 10 being best.

2012 season 3.5 to 4.0
2013 season 4.5 to 5.0

They had they're good games, but they had their lousy games as well.
I'm not sold on the scheme either.....and I think some of the technique
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Old 12-09-2013, 11:34 PM   #43
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Default Re: How would you rate Coach Elliot's performance this year?

I don't at all agree with the point that FL or Auburn or another top SEC team would do better with the talent we had...because if you look at their recruiting the past few years they bring in even BETTER OL talent then we have. So that's a weak argument.

Like others have said, what exactly are you grading against? This is by far the best OLine I've seen since I've been following SC the last 6 years. I think a few sour plays naturally stick out more in our minds than the consistent play we've had all year. Yeah, Robinson got beat by Beasley in the Clemson for a couple sacks but the dude is an elite pass rusher who will be picked in the first 3 rounds...same goes for Michael Sam. I think y'all are being a little too critical.
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Part of the problem is the OL and our running game didn't finish the season well.....rushing and pass protection wasn't that good against Missouri, Florida or Clemson.....not as bad as last year but not as good as earlier in the season.
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We were lucky to keep him after Alabama offered him this past summer. We are 10 and 2, Mike Davis over 1100 yards, Conner 21 touchdowns. I think that speaks for itself. Coach is doing a great job. Remember Coach Elliott brought in the Read-Option that Conner is so good with. Personally, I think Coach Robinson is not getting enough credit for finding Elliott Fry.
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Old 12-10-2013, 02:20 AM   #46
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His performance is by far one of the best on the coaching staff.. if it was up to me, he gets a a raise and exstention.
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He is the leader like Connor is ! Don't doubt this guy.
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Old 12-10-2013, 09:42 AM   #48
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Default Re: How would you rate Coach Elliot's performance this year?

What drives me crazy with your OL is they come off their blocks way to quickly a lot of times, then turn and watch as the QB or HB is getting tackled. Is that coaching or player effort? Probably both. Block until the whistle blows, that's what GREAT teams do. I do like Elliott though.
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Would not put to much stock into what Pickens Tech did. They found a flaw in our alignment that gave away the play. They new if it was going to be a run or pass and were able to determine prior to snap if it was a run or pass. I know Deshaun Williams Dad and he told me this after the fact. SC and Elliot were made aware of this after the fact and are making changes to the OL to prevent this. I am sure others heard the same thing.
The same thing was said coming out of the Tenn game and apparently nothing changed.
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Part of the problem is the OL and our running game didn't finish the season well.....rushing and pass protection wasn't that good against Missouri, Florida or Clemson.....not as bad as last year but not as good as earlier in the season.
That's not really surprising. Mizzou and Fla had two of the best dlines in the country and we know Fla has one of the best dline coaches.
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Would not put to much stock into what Pickens Tech did. They found a flaw in our alignment that gave away the play. They new if it was going to be a run or pass and were able to determine prior to snap if it was a run or pass. I know Deshaun Williams Dad and he told me this after the fact. SC and Elliot were made aware of this after the fact and are making changes to the OL to prevent this. I am sure others heard the same thing.
As Dizzy01 pointed out, this was not a secret. I've seen internet posts and heard calls on the radio for at least half the season about Shaw and our o-lineman tipping off the defense as to run or pass. The fact that we evidently didn't adjust, and Clemson used it against us in the last game of the season, is disheartening.
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The same thing was said coming out of the Tenn game and apparently nothing changed.
That was not the same thing If I remember correctly. I think Shaw had a issue with falling backwards before the snap which gave the DL an advantage on when the ball was going to be snapped. Its hard to block the DL when they have an advantage on the snap count. USCBASEBALL said Clem knew whether it was a run or pass based on our alignment.
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As Dizzy01 pointed out, this was not a secret. I've seen internet posts and heard calls on the radio for at least half the season about Shaw and our o-lineman tipping off the defense as to run or pass. The fact that we evidently didn't adjust, and Clemson used it against us in the last game of the season, is disheartening.
Was nothing to do with Shaw. It was the alignments the OL were using.
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That's not really surprising. Mizzou and Fla had two of the best dlines in the country and we know Fla has one of the best dline coaches.
Yeah mizzou really shut down that auburn rushing attack...
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Anyone with a top 3 defense in the SEC is going to get wins. Its a matter of the other side getting up to snuff if we want to win championships.
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I see no way Robinson is ever a top 2 round pick. I also think his NFL future is at either RT or even more likely inside. Absolutely no way that kid is a NFL LT unless he really really develops over the next year.
He really struggled with speed rushers, which will only get worse at the next level. And he was disappointing at times in his run blocking. 6'8", 340 lbs should be able to create a hole.

He'd be well advised to come back next year, after spending his entire offseason working on footspeed and footwork. If he can improve his technique and footspeed, and maybe tighten up a bit to 325 or 330 lbs, he might be a fairly high draft pick. Right now he's just too slow and cumbersome.
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Yeah mizzou really shut down that auburn rushing attack...
There is a huge difference in pass rush and run stuffing. Just because you matchup well with teams in one area doesn't mean you don't have weaknesses. Check their stats on sacks and hurries.
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That was not the same thing If I remember correctly. I think Shaw had a issue with falling backwards before the snap which gave the DL an advantage on when the ball was going to be snapped. Its hard to block the DL when they have an advantage on the snap count. USCBASEBALL said Clem knew whether it was a run or pass based on our alignment.
The Tenn radio announcers were calling the plays based on alignment and it had nothing to do with Shaw. They knew whether it was a run or pass and which direction simply from the way they guys were lining up and mentioned this was noticed from the film review.

The whole premise of being tipped off by Shaw was ridiculous. Anyone who has ever played dline will tell you pre snap they are trying to pay as little attention to the QB as possible because the only thing that matters is the movement of the ball by the center.
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The Tenn radio announcers were calling the plays based on alignment and it had nothing to do with Shaw. They knew whether it was a run or pass and which direction simply from the way they guys were lining up and mentioned this was noticed from the film review.

The whole premise of being tipped off by Shaw was ridiculous. Anyone who has ever played dline will tell you pre snap they are trying to pay as little attention to the QB as possible because the only thing that matters is the movement of the ball by the center.
That may be true as well, but I know the issue with Shaw falling backwards was pointed out. DC's will study offenses and find little glitches that can give a defense an advantage. Im sure their DC also noticed Shaw falling backwards before the snap and I bet he told his defense to be aware. I have noticed since the UTk game that Shaw has stopped falling backwards before the snap, hopefully the alignment issue can be fixed as well.
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