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Old 12-11-2013, 04:58 PM   #101
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I just said I didn't want to hear any excuses. That argument makes no sense anyway. If it did then Clowney & Lattimore should have been rated 2 stars.
Lol so what you're saying is "I want to express my opinion but i don't want to hear yours"

The state hasn't produced talent like it did back then you do notice most of our 5* are from South Carolina right? Also you would have to be an idiot to miss Clowney and Lattimore's ratings but there are thousands of kids who dont get the same exposure so they aren't picked up by recruiting sites or studied as much.
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Might be or will be?
Since I'm probably as good as anyone else on here at prognosticating, I'm going to say it will be a great season. Then I get to be happy for the next eight months, and the season will go however it goes.
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No matter how you spin it, our recruiting has been horrible. I'm tired of people making excuses as to why we aren't getting major players. Don't give me the BS "3 star recruit is just as good as the 5 star recruit" treatment either.
Yeah, well, I disagree. You are the one who believes in BS if that is what you think.
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Old 12-11-2013, 05:10 PM   #104
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The recruiting isn't "awful" but it's mediocre by SEC standards and is not mirroring our success on the field. Sustained success is not possible in the SEC without BOTH top-notch recruiting AND top-notch coaching.

Quite frankly, with the success USC has been having on the field, we should have been able to parlay that into significantly better recruiting than we've seen.
We are recruiting at a high level in my opinion, people just don't realize it because they don't see enough "stars" for their liking. Not saying there isn't room for improvement, but not THAT much, and I think we CAN compete for championships recruiting at this level. I agree that better recruiting leads to better success on the field, but better star ratings do NOT equal better recruiting. We recruit football players, not stars. A star is not going to go out there in pads and play for these guys.
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Yeah, well, I disagree. You are the one who believes in BS if that is what you think.

Ok well take Bamas roster and apply them at Vanderbilt and see what happens.
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Nobody knows how 2014 will turn out. I don't understand the worry already.
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Old 12-11-2013, 05:17 PM   #107
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The goal is to get guys with a high ceiling. If you have to develop some then so be it. That's why you have 85 scholarships and 100 guys on the roster. So you can afford to bring a few players along each year.
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Old 12-11-2013, 05:21 PM   #108
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Ok well take Bamas roster and apply them at Vanderbilt and see what happens.
First off. 75% of players on Bama's roster couldn't even get in to Vandy. But I see what you mean. Recruiting is not a fair game. Its never a fair fight. Truth is we lack a lot of things that schools like Bama, Georgia and Florida have. It hurts us. The only way to fix that is to support our school so they can get money to get those things.

We are building a winning tradition here under Spurrier. UGA, Bama and Florida have those traditions that we are in the process of building.

We are putting guys in the league. We have a family atmosphere here with this team. Kids like that but we still have a ways to go.
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Old 12-11-2013, 05:22 PM   #109
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exactly, evaluate your classes on who gets into school and how they and ultimately the team performs over the course of their career.
as for the flawed february ratings we have 3.47 avg per commit on rivals right now for the 2014 class, we havent had a higher rating under spurrier. we have to hope we evaluate as good as anyone and hope we end up with difference makers, difference makers once they get on campus.
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Lol so what you're saying is "I want to express my opinion but i don't want to hear yours"



The state hasn't produced talent like it did back then you do notice most of our 5* are from South Carolina right? Also you would have to be an idiot to miss Clowney and Lattimore's ratings but there are thousands of kids who dont get the same exposure so they aren't picked up by recruiting sites or studied as much.

1. No, I'm just saying that myself and others are tired of that excuse that gets thrown around every time we have bad recruiting. Yes we can develop a 3 star into a 5 star but why do that when you can take a 5 star and turn him into 7

2. It's not about just getting 5 stars recruits from SC. It's about getting 5 star recruits from outside the state as well. You see FLA, TX A&M, Alabama, Georgia & Aurbun getting 5 star kids from all over the country. Why don't we? That's the questions we need to be asking instead of making excuses.
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1. No, I'm just saying that myself and others are tired of that excuse that gets thrown around every time we have bad recruiting.

2. It's not about just getting 5 stars recruits from SC. It's about getting 5 star recruits from outside the state as well. You see FLA, TX A&M, Alabama, Georgia & Aurbun getting 5 star kids from all over the country. Why don't we? That's the questions we need to be asking instead of making excuses.
Look at those programs you mentioned. Look at the history of them. Each have a national title. We just aren't on their level in certain aspects.

Maybe you're right. Maybe we do need to hire someone who is a master recruiter. But who are you going to go out and get?
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1. No, I'm just saying that myself and others are tired of that excuse that gets thrown around every time we have bad recruiting. Yes we can develop a 3 star into a 5 star but why do that when you can take a 5 star and turn him into 7

2. It's not about just getting 5 stars recruits from SC. It's about getting 5 star recruits from outside the state as well. You see FLA, TX A&M, Alabama, Georgia & Aurbun getting 5 star kids from all over the country. Why don't we? That's the questions we need to be asking instead of making excuses.
We dont get 5 stars from out of state because we dont have the history of those schools. Also as C2 has said in the recruiting threads over and over its going to be hard to ever get to that level.
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We dont get 5 stars from out of state because we dont have the history of those schools. Also as C2 has said in the recruiting threads over and over its going to be hard to ever get to that level.

Well, build one of these. As long as you accept less, you will always have less.

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We might go undefeated ..
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We might go undefeated ..

I don't care what anyone says, this is my stance until USC loses a game. If they lose one then I think we can go 11-1. It's a lot simpler to look at it that way, to me at least.
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The goal is to get guys with a high ceiling. If you have to develop some then so be it. That's why you have 85 scholarships and 100 guys on the roster. So you can afford to bring a few players along each year.
that's what we do and still do. Connor Shaw, Mike Davis, Pharaoh Cooper, Devin Taylor, Melvin Ingram, Skai Moore, Dylan Thompson, etc. Maybe not THE best coming out of the box, but the ceiling (aka frame and mindset) is there to get to the next level of play
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Maybe were better off playing better teams since we lay an egg more when we play bad teams.
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Our offense will rack up yards. Will that translate into points? Idk. We will turn tge ball over way more with a gunslinger at QB.

The good thing is UGA loses murray. Clemson loses boyd. Most likly watkins. And chad morris. Flordia sucks. I kno there are more i just cant think of.

Bottom line is we will rack up yards. Im willing to say next years offense will be the best under spurrier. We'll see. It will be a totally different offense then weve had the past three years.
I kinda hate to see Boyd go. He hasn't exactly hurt us
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For the folks still whining about our recruiting, can you give me an actual solution? Who should we fire and then hire to achieve this mystical top recruiting that you want? Should we spend into oblivion and get the university into major debt?

I'm being serious, what is your solution? We just won 10 games 3 years in a row, and our current class will end up being excellent. People do this around this time every freakin year. Last year it was because Rolin decommitted. This year it's because we don't have many corners or a top-notch DE, YET. We will end up with both of those things before the class finishes, just like how we got Skai and Walton last year.

But back to my point, what are your ideas for bringing in 4 and 5-star players from around the nation like Bama and Florida?
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People talk about the indoor practice field as being the most needed for recruiting but we need a state of the art football facility. Somebody who is a booster somewhere has the money to do it. I urge that individual to come forward and let's get it done. If I had it to give, I most certainly would.
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