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Old 12-11-2013, 08:27 PM   #121
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Ok well take Bamas roster and apply them at Vanderbilt and see what happens.

Do that. But keep Nick Saban at Bama and James Franklin at Vanderbilt. I bet Vanderbilt wins 9-10 games.
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Do that. But keep Nick Saban at Bama and James Franklin at Vanderbilt. I bet Vanderbilt wins 9-10 games.

Yeah right, James will have VANDY 12-0. 11-1 at best!
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Yeah right, James will have VANDY 12-0. 11-1 at best!
Isn't 12-0 better than 11-1? So how can 11-1 happen "at best"?
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Well I got that backwards but you got the point.
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Well I got that backwards but you got the point.
Just giving you a hard time my friend. I screw up like that all the time. I try to laugh it off when I do it.
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:37 PM   #126
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Well, we don't recruit just by position but by territory. But we have Kelsey Griffin (he was redshirted), Abu Lamin, Taylor Stallworth and Jhaustin Thomas to be added to Surratt, both Dixons, Dukes, English, Harris, and Deon Green as well as Devin Washington, Devonte and possibly Gerald Turner who also redshirted last year. Talent is there. Got to get them to play and get stronger.
Griffin played this year. David Johnson also redshirted and could make an impact at DE next year.

Also Devonte Covington did not make it into USC
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Yeah right, James will have VANDY 12-0. 11-1 at best!
I'm not making a joke, I seriously can't tell if you're serious or kidding around...
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I'm dead serious, hell if Saban leaves for Texas, James could very well get interviewed for the Bama job.
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:29 PM   #129
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It's not about just getting 5 stars recruits from SC. It's about getting 5 star recruits from outside the state as well. You see FLA, TX A&M, Alabama, Georgia & Aurbun getting 5 star kids from all over the country. Why don't we? That's the questions we need to be asking instead of making excuses.
That's not exactly accurate. According to 247Sports:

- Florida currently has 2 5-stars, both from Florida. Florida has a rich history, very recent championship success and is one of the Top 3-5 programs in the country. Their 5 stars are from their own backyard.

- A&M has 2 5-stars, one from Texas, one from Arizona. The Arizona commit is a quarterback, a position A&M has recently featured to massive, almost unprecedented success.

- Bama has 4 5-stars for this class. They are the standard bearer for college football in this era. You're right that their 5 stars are from all over. This should surprise no one. Alabama is one of the most storied and accomplished programs in all of college football. We are not Alabama. Neither is any other program in the country.

- Georgia has one 5-star. He's from Florida.

- Auburn has one 5-star. He's from Alabama.

So you're perception that these programs are just raking in the 5 stars from across the country is pretty erroneous, save Alabama.

Recruiting is hard and it sucks. But South Carolina is never going to recruit classes chocked full of 5 stars. Alabama had 6 5-stars last year in a class of 27, the most of anyone in the country. Hell, there are only 32 5-star recruits in the ENTIRE COUNTRY. And there are a lot more programs than that. But a 5-star stud can just as easily be a bust (see Brown, Bryce) as a 2-star overlooked kid can turn into a stud (see Wilds, Brandon).

It's an inexact science and while we should obviously aspire to recruit w/ the big boys, we have to be realistic w/ what and who we are. That doesn't mean we should "settle" for mediocre recruiting but it doesn't mean we should burn it all down because we didn't sign 15 5-stars.

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I prefer Rivals. Auburn has 3 5-stars there, w00t w00t.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:10 PM   #131
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A&M - loses Manziel and Evans. Their defense was swiss cheese this year. If not for those 2 guys they're not even bowl eligible. Doesn't mean they won't be a challenge, but I think A&M is living off the shine of that Alabama win last year and from what I saw this year had some insanely glaring problems on defense. Their offense kept them in games this year and their offense was mostly JFF and Evans.

UGA - Still have Gurley and it's always a tough game. But they had TWENTY-EIGHT people walk on Senior Day. We had...5. They will be young and playing at WB w/ a new QB.

Mizzou - Will be good. But they're going to lose some of that fantastic D-Line, Franklin, possibly Josey. Also: @ WB.

Auburn - going to be tough, esp. at their place. Let's hope Malzahn bolts for Texas. (Kidding. Sort of.)

Florida - As long as Muschamp is the coach I like our chances. They certainly have the resources to turn it around but that's a program in turmoil presently.

Clemson - Lose most of their skill positions. New Quarterback. New WRs. I take nothing for granted in the rivalry but I like what we have coming back a lot more than I like what they have coming back.

None of this matters this far out. But I think the doom and gloom of the OP is a little unfounded.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:03 PM   #132
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So we play at A&M and at Auburn in 2014? Byyyahhh
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So we play at A&M and at Auburn in 2014? Byyyahhh
No. A&M is at Williams-Brice to open the season. At Auburn.
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No. A&M is at Williams-Brice to open the season. At Auburn.

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I'm worried about 2020. I read that schedule is really tough. :)
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Just as a reference, there are usually only about 15 five* players in the country in each class.
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Just as a reference, there are usually only about 15 five* players in the country in each class.
I'm sure it varies site to site but there were between 26 to 33 5 star recruits per year on rivals from 2010 to 2014....

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A&M - loses Manziel and Evans. Their defense was swiss cheese this year. If not for those 2 guys they're not even bowl eligible. Doesn't mean they won't be a challenge, but I think A&M is living off the shine of that Alabama win last year and from what I saw this year had some insanely glaring problems on defense. Their offense kept them in games this year and their offense was mostly JFF and Evans.

UGA - Still have Gurley and it's always a tough game. But they had TWENTY-EIGHT people walk on Senior Day. We had...5. They will be young and playing at WB w/ a new QB.

Mizzou - Will be good. But they're going to lose some of that fantastic D-Line, Franklin, possibly Josey. Also: @ WB.

Auburn - going to be tough, esp. at their place. Let's hope Malzahn bolts for Texas. (Kidding. Sort of.)

Florida - As long as Muschamp is the coach I like our chances. They certainly have the resources to turn it around but that's a program in turmoil presently.

Clemson - Lose most of their skill positions. New Quarterback. New WRs. I take nothing for granted in the rivalry but I like what we have coming back a lot more than I like what they have coming back.

None of this matters this far out. But I think the doom and gloom of the OP is a little unfounded.
TAMU, and Auburn are our toughest games. Missouri and UGA at home should help, we should win those. We should beat UF at home, and who knows on Clemson.
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Why is A&M one of our toughest games? I'd put florida, auburn, UGA (don't undersell Gurley/Marshall), Clemson all ahead of that
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A&M - loses Manziel and Evans. Their defense was swiss cheese this year. If not for those 2 guys they're not even bowl eligible. Doesn't mean they won't be a challenge, but I think A&M is living off the shine of that Alabama win last year and from what I saw this year had some insanely glaring problems on defense. Their offense kept them in games this year and their offense was mostly JFF and Evans.

UGA - Still have Gurley and it's always a tough game. But they had TWENTY-EIGHT people walk on Senior Day. We had...5. They will be young and playing at WB w/ a new QB.

Mizzou - Will be good. But they're going to lose some of that fantastic D-Line, Franklin, possibly Josey. Also: @ WB.

Auburn - going to be tough, esp. at their place. Let's hope Malzahn bolts for Texas. (Kidding. Sort of.)

Florida - As long as Muschamp is the coach I like our chances. They certainly have the resources to turn it around but that's a program in turmoil presently.

Clemson - Lose most of their skill positions. New Quarterback. New WRs. I take nothing for granted in the rivalry but I like what we have coming back a lot more than I like what they have coming back.

None of this matters this far out. But I think the doom and gloom of the OP is a little unfounded.
The Mizzou game is going to be huge. Mauk will be a Sophomore and they still have those WR and some good backs. Their defense will probably take a big step back but they still have some good ones.
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