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Old 12-12-2013, 07:37 PM   #21
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I have a bet with my friend that he won't go in the first 15 picks. He says he will, I don't think so. I guess we'll see.
If he goes in the first 15 picks that team is wasting a pick. He needs to sit and learn for at least a year under a guy like Drew brees. Someone who knows how to use his lack of height to his advantage. If he tries his scramble around crap in the league he will have a career ending injury within 3 years. He's too small to take big hits.
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Old 12-12-2013, 08:45 PM   #22
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Good for him, all he does is win.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:03 PM   #23
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And this is news how? We all knew it. Hell every time he scored a TD he gave the money sign.
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:35 PM   #24
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Old 12-13-2013, 05:34 AM   #25
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So where do y'all see him going? St.Louis?
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So where do y'all see him going? St.Louis?
Na, Rams have way too much invested in Bradford thanks to that pre CBA monster contract.

I think with a new coach coming in, and the same state, Houston takes him.

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I have a bet with my friend that he won't go in the first 15 picks. He says he will, I don't think so. I guess we'll see.
Well anything can happen...but looks like 2nd-3rd rd for JF. He has too many downsides at the next level to be a high pick...remember, 1st-2nd rd picks are usually for someone who can offer immediate help to a team in need.

Unless he can learn to read defenses and stand in the pocket, he may never do much.
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If he goes in the first 15 picks that team is wasting a pick. He needs to sit and learn for at least a year under a guy like Drew brees. Someone who knows how to use his lack of height to his advantage. If he tries his scramble around crap in the league he will have a career ending injury within 3 years. He's too small to take big hits.
JM does not take big hits. He is very good at getting out of bounds. He is the best QB coming out in my opinion. There will be many teams wishing they had taken JM when it is all said and done.
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Old 12-13-2013, 04:42 PM   #29
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JM does not take big hits. He is very good at getting out of bounds. He is the best QB coming out in my opinion. There will be many teams wishing they had taken JM when it is all said and done.
You may be right, but he still projects as a 3rd-4th rd pick when looking at his measurables. See how he does in the combines....if he turns heads, things might change.
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You may be right, but he still projects as a 3rd-4th rd pick when looking at his measurables. See how he does in the combines....if he turns heads, things might change.
The only measurable against him is his Height.

So basically he projects as 3rd or 4th rounder because he's short.
Although a good amount of mock drafts that have been coming out have him going in the first.
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The only measurable against him is his Height.

So basically he projects as 3rd or 4th rounder because he's short.
Although a good amount of mock drafts that have been coming out have him going in the first.
I saw comments about his arm, ablility to read defenses, ability to go through his reads....just saying. I really don't care.
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Kiper is saying right now he is a mid-to-late 1st rounder, but could creep to the top 10 before the draft. He shoud leave now, no question.
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I saw comments about his arm, ablility to read defenses, ability to go through his reads....just saying. I really don't care.
I've seen the exact opposite.
This of course being websites with "scouts"
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I can't imagine why he wouldn't go to the NFL, live his literal life long dream and become independently wealthy overnight. He has already won a Heisman Trophy...as a freshman...lead the SEC in rushing...as a freshman...beat the number one team in the country and defending National Champs...as a freshman...and become a literal national icon. People all over the country already refer to him as 'Johnny Football'...easily the best nickname I've heard in my life time. Anybody who has an issue with this must have some hidden motivations I just don't understand.
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This of course being websites with "scouts"
Yea...looked and see some of that as well.
I just figured most teams would be looking at DEs,OTs, CBs, etc....guys that may be able to contribute early...just depends on needs...some great QB steals can be had in later rds...not as many DEs, OTs, etc.

I know this is a stretch, but unless teams think JF can get them into a SB one day, hard to see them using a 1st rd pick on him. But I hope he makes it...I've enjoyed watching Russell Wilson...nice to see the dual threat guys doing well.
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Yea...looked and see some of that as well.
I just figured most teams would be looking at DEs,OTs, CBs, etc....guys that may be able to contribute early...just depends on needs...some great QB steals can be had in later rds...not as many DEs, OTs, etc.

I know this is a stretch, but unless teams think JF can get them into a SB one day, hard to see them using a 1st rd pick on him. But I hope he makes it...I've enjoyed watching Russell Wilson...nice to see the dual threat guys doing well.
QB is the most important position in football.
If ryan tannehill can start from day one, he will too.
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I can't imagine why he wouldn't go to the NFL, live his literal life long dream and become independently wealthy overnight. He has already won a Heisman Trophy...as a freshman...lead the SEC in rushing...as a freshman...beat the number one team in the country and defending National Champs...as a freshman...and become a literal national icon. People all over the country already refer to him as 'Johnny Football'...easily the best nickname I've heard in my life time. Anybody who has an issue with this must have some hidden motivations I just don't understand.
I like to refer to him as Johnny Dipshit.
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