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Old 12-19-2013, 10:27 PM   #101
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Tough games now will help the youthful players in the future. They started off great then they seemed to be scattered. This is something that you can fix we have young talent. Once they learn to trust and communicate , winning will happen.
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:28 PM   #102
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Jumped the gun on Thornwell and Johnson I reckon. I really thought those two guys would put this team on their backs.
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I'm just gonna come out and say it. We've had better basketball teams at USC.
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:46 PM   #104
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maybe we just can't be good at all 4 major sports at one time. I mean we are a top 10 team in football, baseball, and women's basketball.
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If this team cannot win against Upstate, I really don't see this team winning another game this year.
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:57 PM   #106
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If this team cannot win against Upstate, I really don't see this team winning another game this year.
I know tonight sucked and I don't blame you for being a prisoner of the moment, but that's a silly thing to say. Weird, flukey stuff happens in college sports all the time, especially basketball. Look at UNC this year, for example: they beat Michigan State and Louisville (when both were top-3 teams) and then lost to Belmont and UAB. I'm not directly comparing us to UNC, of course, but there's no reason to write off a team's season/potential when it's only December. Do we have to adjust our expectations a bit? Yeah, probably. The Baylor game got a lot of us really excited, and unfortunately it looks like we won't see that product on the floor for every game. But that doesn't mean this team can't accomplish anything.

Also, the people who are now acting like Martin is somehow a garbage hire when he's only in his second year are crazy. Remember how hopeless it seemed with Spurrier when we went 6-6 and missed a bowl? Thank god y'all weren't calling the shots then.
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How is USC blowing a 17 point lead "funny"?
because we are so bad it's laughable
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Old 12-19-2013, 11:55 PM   #108
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I know tonight sucked and I don't blame you for being a prisoner of the moment, but that's a silly thing to say. Weird, flukey stuff happens in college sports all the time, especially basketball. Look at UNC this year, for example: they beat Michigan State and Louisville (when both were top-3 teams) and then lost to Belmont and UAB. I'm not directly comparing us to UNC, of course, but there's no reason to write off a team's season/potential when it's only December. Do we have to adjust our expectations a bit? Yeah, probably. The Baylor game got a lot of us really excited, and unfortunately it looks like we won't see that product on the floor for every game. But that doesn't mean this team can't accomplish anything.

Also, the people who are now acting like Martin is somehow a garbage hire when he's only in his second year are crazy. Remember how hopeless it seemed with Spurrier when we went 6-6 and missed a bowl? Thank god y'all weren't calling the shots then.
Based on what I have seen the last two games....I hardly think you can call tonight a fluke.
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Greg Marshall is laughing too.

How we never made this no brainer hire is beyond me.

Frank may get it right but if they'd have hired Marshall instead of Horn, we'd have a top 20 team.
You're joking, right? No way we'd be a top 20 team with Marshall instead of Martin. It took him seven years at Winthrop to get a team capable of actually competing in the NCAA tournament and his 9th year there before winning in the tournament. It took him until his 4th year at Wichita State to get them to the level they are at now. Don't get me wrong, as a longtime Winthrop fan I wanted Marshall to be the coach here, but it would have taken him a few years with some hard work to get us to the point of competing in the conference and making NCAA tournaments.
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Everyone just chill. Our team looks like a project because our players are projects. That's the only kind of players we can get at USC right now.

They will grow together and get consistently better.

That being said, we need someone who can shoot. At this point there are people hanging out at Strom who are better zone-busters than anyone we have.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:45 AM   #112
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As for the post that Dawn has consistently recruited five star talent to USC - that is not true. Until this year, she only had 1 five star recruit that I can recall - Kelsey Bone. Now, in her 6th year she has signed 3 five star players with a 4th one fairly likely. Rome was not built in a day and neither will the Gamecock basketball program. Frank Martin is a proven commodity as he took Kansas State to the Elite Eight. I also recall Kansas State fans being very upset when they lost him. On the contrary, Western Kentucky fans were delighted when we took Darrin Horn off their hands. I find that to be very telling.

I'm at every basketball game and have been at virtually every home game for 32 years. I hate to lose more than anything in the world, but if we don't get behind the quality coach that we have, we will continue to lose. Period. Who else is in?
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Everyone just chill. Our team looks like a project because our players are projects. That's the only kind of players we can get at USC right now.

They will grow together and get consistently better.

That being said, we need someone who can shoot. At this point there are people hanging out at Strom who are better zone-busters than anyone we have.
Been hearing this crap for years...no excuse losing to sc upstate and manhattan freaking rediculous
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One more thing. This season's uniforms are the ugliest a Gamecock basketball team has ever worn.
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As for the post that Dawn has consistently recruited five star talent to USC - that is not true. Until this year, she only had 1 five star recruit that I can recall - Kelsey Bone. Now, in her 6th year she has signed 3 five star players with a 4th one fairly likely. Rome was not built in a day and neither will the Gamecock basketball program. Frank Martin is a proven commodity as he took Kansas State to the Elite Eight. I also recall Kansas State fans being very upset when they lost him. On the contrary, Western Kentucky fans were delighted when we took Darrin Horn off their hands. I find that to be very telling.

I'm at every basketball game and have been at virtually every home game for 32 years. I hate to lose more than anything in the world, but if we don't get behind the quality coach that we have, we will continue to lose. Period. Who else is in?
I'm with you. I think our BB program was in much worse shape than any of us thought. If given the chance, Coach will fix this.
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Was never a fan of the Martin hire, and say what you will, but losing to a branch campus is UNACCEPTBALE, period. Yes USC Upstate is a good program, but the talent level should not compare.

Martin can recruit, but player development is lacking. Look at last year, can anyone really say they have seen any player make any improvements from last year.
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Was never a fan of the Martin hire, and say what you will, but losing to a branch campus is UNACCEPTBALE, period. Yes USC Upstate is a good program, but the talent level should not compare.

Martin can recruit, but player development is lacking. Look at last year, can anyone really say they have seen any player make any improvements from last year.
There are only a few key players remaining from last year's squad. The new additions appear, to me, to have a much higher ceiling than most of what has been brought in for quite some time. I believe the team will make significant progress, this year. This is the first team that we have that at least passes the "eye" test for an SEC team that I can remember.
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One could say they have regressed since the Baylor game....
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Horn drug this program through the dirt. Frank was given basically nothing. He is trying. I say year 4 will be much better than we ever imagined
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I tend to wonder if Martin and his looks and scolls don't have the guys wound so tight they do not perform like they are capable of.
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