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Old 12-20-2013, 12:35 AM   #1661
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Its also possible that USC makes a play on Rashard Croney, Deion Hallmon, and/or Derrick Tindal eventually. Not a bad trio of backup options at Corner (if needed).

Also, it looks like they are monitoring Derrick Kelly. Another offensive lineman with a stout offer sheet.

The fish are out there and USC's coaches have got options to finish out this class with a bang.
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:42 AM   #1662
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I'm very happy to hear we've picked up some steam with several of our uncommitted targets, hopefully we'll close out the recruiting cycle stronger than ever.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:08 AM   #1664
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I have a simple question. Other than Michael Scarnecchia, who is a questionable recruit in this class?

Is it 3 star Malik Young? I suppose a solid argument could be developed. On the other hand, he is having a solid week at the Shrine Bowl and many analysts think he is going to develop into a quality interior SEC lineman down the line.

Is it 3 star Jhaustin Thomas? Can't be, he is a JUCO All-American.

Is it 3 star Joe Blue? Can't be, he had offers from Auburn, Florida, and Southern Cal.

Is it 3 star Tyshun Samuel? Nah, he is absolutely blowing up this week and is in line for a huge bump in star rating.

Is it 3 star Taylor Stallworth? Nope, he had a fantastic all star week last week. Recruiting analysts at the event loved this guy.

How about 3 stars Darin Smalls and Al Harris? Those offer sheets surely say different.


My point is, USC has a class full of very good football players. Are academics a concern? Yes, maybe more than recent years but there is no question that USC has some ball players on deck. And one can not help but think that USC's "hot streak" is on the horizon. They have positioned themselves well with 5 star Damian Prince, 4 Stars Derrell Scott, Dexter Wideman, Darrius Caldwell, Wesley Green, and Chris Lammons. Heck, they probably have a punchers chance at flipping Poona Ford if they want him and they quite possibly will get official visits from Arthur Williams, Andrew Williams, and Nate Brown. Its also quite possible that another player x and y will turn up in the next month.

I'd say recruiting is on the uptick at the moment.
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We would have twelve 4* players and ten 3* players....plus Deebo and a couple more may very well get a bump....so that would give us fourteen 4* players and eight 3* players....that may put is in the top 5-7.
It would be better if more of them were the 6.0 or 5.9 (rivals) variety as far as Class ranking is concerned, still would be 10-20 if mostly 5.8 (rivals) rated which is better than we would have done with 16-17 signees.
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I have a simple question. Other than Michael Scarnecchia, who is a questionable recruit in this class?

Is it 3 star Malik Young? I suppose a solid argument could be developed. On the other hand, he is having a solid week at the Shrine Bowl and many analysts think he is going to develop into a quality interior SEC lineman down the line.

Is it 3 star Jhaustin Thomas? Can't be, he is a JUCO All-American.

Is it 3 star Joe Blue? Can't be, he had offers from Auburn, Florida, and Southern Cal.

Is it 3 star Tyshun Samuel? Nah, he is absolutely blowing up this week and is in line for a huge bump in star rating.

Is it 3 star Taylor Stallworth? Nope, he had a fantastic all star week last week. Recruiting analysts at the event loved this guy.

How about 3 stars Darin Smalls and Al Harris? Those offer sheets surely say different.


My point is, USC has a class full of very good football players. Are academics a concern? Yes, maybe more than recent years but there is no question that USC has some ball players on deck. And one can not help but think that USC's "hot streak" is on the horizon. They have positioned themselves well with 5 star Damian Prince, 4 Stars Derrell Scott, Dexter Wideman, Darrius Caldwell, Wesley Green, and Chris Lammons. Heck, they probably have a punchers chance at flipping Poona Ford if they want him and they quite possibly will get official visits from Arthur Williams, Andrew Williams, and Nate Brown. Its also quite possible that another player x and y will turn up in the next month.

I'd say recruiting is on the uptick at the moment.

I agree, the QB is the only head scratcher.

I totally agree that Thomas couldn't be a 3 star, he was a Post Season 1st Team JUCO All American. The rated above him on the sites are 4 stars, he should obviously be the #1 at his position.

Blue's 3 Star is about right, he's a really good player. That's what happens in recruiting though to people who commit early. There's less hype.

The other guys you named I haven't seen enough of to say if they should be 3 or not.

If we get about 5 more four star guys, we'll end up with a top 15 class. If we can somehow swing Prince and both Green/Smith, we could break into the Top 10.
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I agree, the QB is the only head scratcher.

I totally agree that Thomas couldn't be a 3 star, he was a Post Season 1st Team JUCO All American. The rated above him on the sites are 4 stars, he should obviously be the #1 at his position.

Blue's 3 Star is about right, he's a really good player. That's what happens in recruiting though to people who commit early. There's less hype.

The other guys you named I haven't seen enough of to say if they should be 3 or not.

If we get about 5 more four star guys, we'll end up with a top 15 class. If we can somehow swing Prince and both Green/Smith, we could break into the Top 10.
Blue is a fullback. Even the #1 fullback recruit in the nation is a 3*. Nothing much you can do about that.
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It will be a very interesting end to this year's recruiting cycle and one that most USC fans will be excited about.
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It would be better if more of them were the 6.0 or 5.9 (rivals) variety as far as Class ranking is concerned, still would be 10-20 if mostly 5.8 (rivals) rated which is better than we would have done with 16-17 signees.
What does class ranking really matter? Would you rather have a class that is top 8 and underperforms or a class that is in the mid teens and performs well?
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:27 AM   #1671
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Here is an article re-ranking the 2010 recruiting classes based on production:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/col...-2010-re-rank/

2. South Carolina
Original Rivals rank: 24
Record since 2010: 31-9
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National titles: 0
2012 starters: OG A.J. Cann, CB Victor Hampton, DT Byron Jerideau, RB Marcus Lattimore, OL Ronald Patrick, DT Kelcy Quarles, OL Corey Robinson, WR Ace Sanders, QB Connor Shaw, QB Dylan Thompson, S Brison Williams
Here's a trivia question: Can you name the only programs in the BCS AQ conferences to win at least 11 games in each of the past two seasons? Alabama, Oregon and Stanford are the easy answers. The fourth? The Mighty Gamecocks. Had you answered that correctly late last month, Uncle Steve Spurrier might have handed you an envelope containing an $100 bill. This class played a big role in those wins. Lattimore helped raise South Carolina to another level, while Shaw and Thompson have each proven themselves capable quarterbacks. Sanders has developed into a dangerous weapon in the slot and on punt returns. This past Wednesday, Spurrier fired a shot at recruiting rankings in general. "I'm not saying it's not important," Spurrier said, "but we'd rather make our noise out in Williams-Brice on gameday." This group has been awfully loud.


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I agree! Recruiting is looking pretty good right now IF we finish strong with our big targets and IF we can get the guys into school.

LOTS of academic issues.
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Must finish strong or all of this sunshine pumping is moot. Must get at least a few of our DL in school or we're screwed
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Exactly! This guy speaks the truth. We must have this happen and get 2 of Green, Smith, or Lammons.
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Exactly! This guy speaks the truth. We must have this happen and get 2 of Green, Smith, or Lammons.
Absolutely. This class has the potential to finish stronger than we ever have, but there's also the chance it ends quietly. We haven't hit our recruiting hot streak like we do every year, so hopefully that's on the way. If we finish like we all hope we can it will be the best class ever IMO, and hopefully we can get everyone to campus.
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What does class ranking really matter? Would you rather have a class that is top 8 and underperforms or a class that is in the mid teens and performs well?
I'd rather have a class ranked in the top 8 and played great and we made the final four.
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I agree! Recruiting is looking pretty good right now IF we finish strong with our big targets and IF we can get the guys into school.

LOTS of academic issues.
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Absolutely. This class has the potential to finish stronger than we ever have, but there's also the chance it ends quietly. We haven't hit our recruiting hot streak like we do every year, so hopefully that's on the way. If we finish like we all hope we can it will be the best class ever IMO, and hopefully we can get everyone to campus.
precisely. I can't think of a bigger recruiting weekend than Jan 17th in recent memory. At least since the Lattimore cycle IMO. Probably more important with the sheer talent and number of dudes we are still looking to land (5-6 4* players). Just gotta get Caldwell, 2 of Smith/Lammons/Green (all 3 are gravy) and then hope we get Scott and Wideman flips. AND THEN that either Wideman or Sawyer qualify. Haha. Santa, you listenin'?
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But if we landed 6 of these 8 remaining targets (Caldwell, Scott, Green, Lammons, Smith, Poona Ford, Dex Wideman, Damian Prince) I'd say it's the best class since '09 and may be better top to bottom. Honestly (and don't shoot me) I think the TE out of goose creek may be the one player I'm unsure on the whole fitting-the-system-thing unless we get him to DE which I hope is the plan. I love him as a DE. Also, I understand keeping open that goose creek pipeline is vital
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