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Old 12-24-2013, 12:28 AM   #141
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They look like they always do when I watch them play. Uncoordinated, sloppy, and lazy.
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:29 AM   #142
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If we're playing this way at the final buzzer of this season, it's going to take 3 more years not 2. These recruits were and are supposed to be among the best in the nation as far as highly touted.
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:34 AM   #143
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Not if I recall correctly.. I don't think there were more than 2 Top150 guys if I remember right. We definitely aren't putting out the talent that the average Top 50 program has on the court night in and night out. It'll take a few more recruiting cycyles, but least year was a good start
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Conference play can change the season but young or not, somebody on this team is going to have to step up as a leader and get these bonehead turnovers and plays straightened out and hold these players accountable. I see no floor leader and one better step up quick.
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We have a few guys capable. Martin needs to have a heart to heart with a few of our guys before conference play starts, especially a few of the freshman. This season can be saved and we have the talent to save it. A post season tournament (NIT probably) would be a good start
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Not if I recall correctly.. I don't think there were more than 2 Top150 guys if I remember right. We definitely aren't putting out the talent that the average Top 50 program has on the court night in and night out. It'll take a few more recruiting cycyles, but least year was a good start
That's not what we were sold. We were sold that these players were better skill wise than last year and improvement should come sooner not later that's why the cast off of basically last years entire team. If this tonight is what we are at the end of the year, it'll take more than a few recruiting cycles.
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Not if I recall correctly.. I don't think there were more than 2 Top150 guys if I remember right. We definitely aren't putting out the talent that the average Top 50 program has on the court night in and night out. It'll take a few more recruiting cycyles, but least year was a good start
I wonder how many top 150 guys Boise St. has on their team? I'll bet fewer than USC does.
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We have a few guys capable. Martin needs to have a heart to heart with a few of our guys before conference play starts, especially a few of the freshman. This season can be saved and we have the talent to save it. A post season tournament (NIT probably) would be a good start
I agree with the heart to heart. I just don't see who will take it to heart right now.
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Probably so, but they have a veteran team that has played together for several years.
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I wonder how many top 150 guys Boise St. has on their team? I'll bet fewer than USC does.
Seriously? You're overlooking the fact that even as a top 150, South Carolina is playing a lot of young guys, against a Boise Team that has played together for a couple years. That was a really solid Boise State team against a not so Solid South Carolina team. Just because a guy isnt in the "top 150" doesnt mean he isnt a heck of a basketball player.

They were in the tournament last season and wen 21-11, and started this season off 8-0. "Its not how good you are, its how good everyone else is", yall just gotta weather the storm. Hopefully Frank coaches these guys up, and they get better as the year goes on.

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I think people are forgetting the value of experience. We just played a team with a bunch of Juniors and Seniors.

We are a team with a ton of first and second year players.
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Probably so, but they have a veteran team that has played together for several years.
Yea, they returned all 5 starters and 92% of playing time from last year.
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I think people are forgetting the value of experience. We just played a team with a bunch of Juniors and Seniors.

We are a team with a ton of first and second year players.
It seems I have heard that same thing in several of the games so far this year. It's like every team we play has mostly juniors and seniors.

I think Frank over scheduled for the team we have.
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Probably so, but they have a veteran team that has played together for several years.
Then the recruiting rankings really don't mean much.
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That's not what we were sold. We were sold that these players were better skill wise than last year and improvement should come sooner not later that's why the cast off of basically last years entire team. If this tonight is what we are at the end of the year, it'll take more than a few recruiting cycles.
oh if what we saw tonight is equivalent to the same effort, performance, emotion, defensive presence, etc. that we see in the final stretch of this season, I'll consider the season a total waste. I do believe we have improved from last year. I just hope that we haven't seen the end of improvement in that first year. I mean, Demetirus and Thornwell could very well flip a switch and carry this team to a 3 or 4 seed in the SEC tournament IMO. But that would also take Chat or another big guy stepping up more

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that's not the point I was trying to make. Just saying that overall talent + depth w/ talent takes years to get, especially when you wipe the board as clean as we did last year
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It seems I have heard that same thing in several of the games so far this year. It's like every team we play has mostly juniors and seniors.

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you can absolutely NEVER over-schedule in NCAAB, ever.
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