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Old 12-27-2013, 03:02 PM   #61
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Mocks in December are useless, but McShay is right that there are a bunch of teams without franchise quarterbacks currently in the Top 7

1-Houston
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6-Jacksonville
7-Oakland

St. Louis has Washington's pick, but the Rams are committed to Bradford as their guy and they already have Robert Quinn and Chris Long on the outside, negating the need for Clowney.

Unless Tampa or Cleveland passes on the chance to get a young quarterback to build around, Clowney is probably ATL bound.
What QB's are really worth a top 3 pick other than Bridgewater? Teams will either trade down to get their QBs or look to get one in free agency or a trade. And I think you if you think teams are going to all be desperate for that elusive "FRANCHISE" QB, I think you kidding yourself. Most will just try to get some kind of upgrade at the position. You got guys like Michael Vick and Kirk Cousins out there.
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Old 12-27-2013, 06:41 PM   #62
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Default Re: Clowney not in Top 3 of McShay's First Mock Draft

I think he absolutely wows scouts at the combines and personal workouts and goes 1 or 2. Just got a feeling from what I've been reading recently.
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Old 12-27-2013, 07:33 PM   #63
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I think he absolutely wows scouts at the combines and personal workouts and goes 1 or 2. Just got a feeling from what I've been reading recently.
Yea I've had this feeling since he stepped foot on campus. Just wait till the combine. He is going to put on a clinic, thus solidifying him as the number 1 draft pick.
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QB's are the need of the top few teams. I'm not sure combines will change this.
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QB's are the need of the top few teams. I'm not sure combines will change this.
We won't know till the draft, but I think if Clowney participates in the combine then he will be the number 1 pick.
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Yea I've had this feeling since he stepped foot on campus. Just wait till the combine. He is going to put on a clinic, thus solidifying him as the number 1 draft pick.
Doesn't this depend on how injured he really is. We don't know 100% the full extent of his injuries in his foot/ankle. This could require surgery in the offseason that could limit him in the combine.

Keywords there are obvious: Could

People will brush this off like its no big deal, but he's been playing injured all season - and he's had a history of injuries with his feet/ankle since he was in high school.
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Doesn't this depend on how injured he really is. We don't know 100% the full extent of his injuries in his foot/ankle. This could require surgery in the offseason that could limit him in the combine.

Keywords there are obvious: Could

People will brush this off like its no big deal, but he's been playing injured all season - and he's had a history of injuries with his feet/ankle since he was in high school.
He will go #1 Overall.. I am sorry but any GM willing to gamble on a QB because they need one as a franchise QB over this guy, is retarded and making a worse business decision than A&E did with the whole Phil Robertson fiasco.
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Doesn't this depend on how injured he really is. We don't know 100% the full extent of his injuries in his foot/ankle. This could require surgery in the offseason that could limit him in the combine.

Keywords there are obvious: Could

People will brush this off like its no big deal, but he's been playing injured all season - and he's had a history of injuries with his feet/ankle since he was in high school.
That's a possibility for sure, but regardless he will participate in a pro day at the least. If for some reason the surgery required him to heal all the way up to or past the draft then I imagine he'll delay the surgery.
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He will go #1 Overall.. I am sorry but any GM willing to gamble on a QB because they need one as a franchise QB over this guy, is retarded and making a worse business decision than A&E did with the whole Phil Robertson fiasco.
12 out of the last 15 drafts have featured a QB going #1 overall. This is probably due to the fact that the QB position is normally the lifeline of a team. If a team has a QB, it generally has a fighting chance. If a team fails to have a QB, they generally aren't very good.

This is also because franchise QB mean exactly what they sound like. Franchise QB's last for years...and are people you can build your team around. So drafting those players that you think are "Franchise" caliber really outweighs everything else.

So if a team with the #1 pick in the draft has a need for a QB, and thinks that Teddy Bridgewater, Johnny Manziel, or any other QB in this draft is a potential franchise QB, it wouldn't be so surprising to see one of them taken #1 overall in the draft.
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Doesn't this depend on how injured he really is. We don't know 100% the full extent of his injuries in his foot/ankle. This could require surgery in the offseason that could limit him in the combine.

Keywords there are obvious: Could

People will brush this off like its no big deal, but he's been playing injured all season - and he's had a history of injuries with his feet/ankle since he was in high school.

I've brought this up a time or two whenever someone has mentioned him burning it up at the combine. If he is gonna get his issues repaired, then he will need to get after it as soon as the bowl game is over. he should be plenty healed enough to go on Pro Day. I think he sits out the combine in favor of the surgery/pro day scenario.

I even think I heard it on the radio this past week, that right now, that is his plans. he will go in the top 10 even if he sits out the combine and pro day. I think getting his issues taken care of should trump wanting to be the number 1 overall pick.
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