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Old 01-01-2014, 12:33 PM   #1
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Happy New Years Guys,

Maybe someone could shed some light on the "Grandaddy Of Them All". I understand the Rose Bowl has been around forever but, why is it annually such a media love fest?

I mean to me, an East Coast SEC guy, it's played in a run down crappy looking stadium in the suburbs of Los Angeles. If someone says that College Football is that big out there I would say no way. People out there are on Lakers and Kobe suicide watch.

I just don't get it. The only comparison I can even put into terms is, The Masters. But, differently in that the Masters is played on one of the most beautiful, toughest venues in the world.

Am I the only one that feels this way?
Hell I think we could beat Sparty and I would really love to see us go against Stanford.

Edit: But, the SEC doesn't have any bowl tie-ins to this so it could be the main reason I don't look at it the way some do.


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Just has to do with ESPN having the rights to this game so bother overhype it. It use to be a big deal because it was a clash between styles and geographic areas, before it was common place to see a Midwest team play a west coast team. That is also why the so cal and ND game was so big, along with both winning often.
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Old 01-01-2014, 12:51 PM   #3
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That makes sense.

Listening to ESPN hype it up it's like they are trying to describe it similarly to the way Jim Nantz always describes Augusta, with class, pageantry, and mystique.

The way I interpret their description of the Rose Bowl, it's like a drunk singing the worst karaoke I've ever heard followed up by an encore performance from Rob Ford, the Crack Smoking Mayor.
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This has a lot to do with the history of the game. Long ago the Big10 and Pac10 were the giants of college football. A match up of the champions of those leagues was often played knowing the winner would very much be in line for the national title. According to wikipedia (i know) it is the oldest bowl game played first in 1902, so that would explain the grandaddy comments.
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This has a lot to do with the history of the game. Long ago the Big10 and Pac10 were the giants of college football. A match up of the champions of those leagues was often played knowing the winner would very much be in line for the national title. According to wikipedia (i know) it is the oldest bowl game played first in 1902, so that would explain the grandaddy comments.
Thanks for the info. I knew it had been around since the turn of the century. I haven't looked to much into the playoff system but, in the foreseeable future, is it possible to see us play there outside of a Nat. championship?
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It is the most over hyped bowl of all now except maybe the orange bowl because at least the Rose does not get stuck with a overblown acc team.
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Thanks for the info. I knew it had been around since the turn of the century. I haven't looked to much into the playoff system but, in the foreseeable future, is it possible to see us play there outside of a Nat. championship?
Very unlikely. Rose bowl has made a deal to basically always have a Big 10 team and a PAC 12 team in the Rose Bowl. They usually take a Big 12 team before they take an east coast SEC team.
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It's the granddaddy of them all.

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It's the reason we can't have a real playoff
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Yea up here no one cares about CFB.
Except for this game.

Going home after our game a lot of places were packed for the Rose Bowl.
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of all the "bcs" bowls, the Rose is the best. Orange is crap these days, Fiesta is new and usually has some mid-major conference in it. Rose is the oldest, usually pits two even teams together and the games are good. Sugar is ok. Even as an east coaster I give props to the Rose bowl.
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MSU-Stanford is a fantastic game. I love the way both teams okay defense. Really aggressive and fast.
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I've been to two Rose Bowls as a neutral party when I was stationed in Southern California. I had a great time at both. There is a lot of pageantry...famed Rose Parade, celebrities and the like. As far as the coverage, it's all ESPN hype. They build the momentum for the games they have rights to.

Though they do traditionally put together some of the best matchups, at it's core it's just another football game in an underwhelming stadium. That said I would jump at the opportunity to go again and part of my front yard is sewn with sod I took from the field in 2006 ;)
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They have the best grass of any football stadium by far
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Man, they're ripping up the sod, and replacing it before the NCG. Sucks. They did that for the AU/UO game, and it was very slick, people were sliding around and Chris Davis sprained his ankle on the opening kickoff.
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MSU-Stanford is a fantastic game. I love the way both teams okay defense. Really aggressive and fast.
I wish Ward would learn somethings from them, specifically about how to play discipline and stop the run. This is an entertaining game for sure.
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Love seeing Michigan State get this victory.
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We will be there next year
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I wish Ward would learn somethings from them, specifically about how to play discipline and stop the run. This is an entertaining game for sure.
I hope so too. Herbstreit kept making the comment that MSU's lb's weren't blitzing, but just attacking their running game. I think that is how we should have played vs Wisc.
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I hope so too. Herbstreit kept making the comment that MSU's lb's weren't blitzing, but just attacking their running game. I think that is how we should have played vs Wisc.
That plus the way we avoid blocks rather than take them on and shrink the hole is not a sound plan. I don't know if they are teaching them to avoid contact but from seeing it happen so often, I'd assume they do teach it. Ward's philosophy scares me because he is all about the pro style, which is give up the big play to make the big play. I guess we will see if there are any changes next year.
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