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2014 is going to be huge.

If this is true then I wouldn't be surprised if we are favored to win the East next year.
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That would be AMAZING!!!!!

Imagine the Offensive weapons next year ... Mike Davis with Wilds and Carson ... Adams and Anderson at TE, Roland, Bryd, Jones and hopefully Ellington at WR (throw in Whitehurst and a few others) ... all given time and space to show out behind what could be one of the best lines Carolina has put on a field in a LOOOOONNNNNNNG time.

We'll have a veteran, but new starter with great talent behind him challenging for the starter roll.
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It appears to be getting better behind our 4 returning starters, here is why:

Clayton Stadnik/Cody Waldrop return. This is going to be a heated battle in the Spring. I think the loser probably gets a long look at the vacant RG spot.

Mike Matulis - should finally be healthy. It could be argued that he is our best lineman when healthy. Capable of playing either tackle spot.

Cody Gibson - should finally be healthy. He provides depth at RT.

DJ Park, Na'Ty Rodgers, Alan Knott - three extremely talented freshmen enter the rotation.

Mason Zandi - Year 3 in the program. Probably has grown physically as well as any lineman under Elliott. It'll be time for him to play.

Throw in Will Sport, Bryce King, Donell Stanley, and Malik Young.

That is a really talented group of lineman.


EDIT: Forgot to mention Brock Stadnik.

HOWEVER, I am very concerned about the starting group when it comes to running the football. They won't have Connor Shaw to pad their rushing statistics anymore.
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It appears to be getting better behind our 4 returning starters, here is why:

Clayton Stadnik/Cody Waldrop return. This is going to be a heated battle in the Spring. I think the loser probably gets a long look at the vacant RG spot.

Mike Matulis - should finally be healthy. It could be argued that he is our best lineman when healthy. Capable of playing either tackle spot.

Cody Gibson - should finally be healthy. He provides depth at RT.

DJ Park, Na'Ty Rodgers, Alan Knott - three extremely talented freshmen enter the rotation.

Mason Zandi - Year 3 in the program. Probably has grown physically as well as any lineman under Elliott. It'll be time for him to play.

Throw in Will Sport, Bryce King, Donell Stanley, and Malik Young.

That is a really talented group of lineman.


HOWEVER, I am very concerned about the starting group when it comes to running the football. They won't have Connor Shaw to pad their rushing statistics anymore.
Yeah, I am worried about that too. They seem to be pretty good with the pass blocking, but the run blocking has been very inconsistent. However, I do remember that the few times we ran out of the I-formation this year they were making some big holes. I specifically remember running out of the I was how we got out of trouble against UCF in the second half.

When we run out of the shotgun I am so used to seeing the RB getting stuffed at the line or maybe getting 2 or 3 yards. Very frustrating.
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Perfectly stated C2...If we can get the run blocking going..The sky is the limits...
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I'm excited to finally see David Williams in action. He should be a dangerous addition to the RB rotation.
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It appears to be getting better behind our 4 returning starters, here is why:

Clayton Stadnik/Cody Waldrop return. This is going to be a heated battle in the Spring. I think the loser probably gets a long look at the vacant RG spot.

Mike Matulis - should finally be healthy. It could be argued that he is our best lineman when healthy. Capable of playing either tackle spot.

Cody Gibson - should finally be healthy. He provides depth at RT.

DJ Park, Na'Ty Rodgers, Alan Knott - three extremely talented freshmen enter the rotation.

Mason Zandi - Year 3 in the program. Probably has grown physically as well as any lineman under Elliott. It'll be time for him to play.

Throw in Will Sport, Bryce King, Donell Stanley, and Malik Young.

That is a really talented group of lineman.


HOWEVER, I am very concerned about the starting group when it comes to running the football. They won't have Connor Shaw to pad their rushing statistics anymore.
I said the exact same thing in another thread. We are going to miss Connor Shaw in this offense. He got a lot of first downs and kept us out of 2nd and 3rd and long with his legs. Dylan's an effective QB but it's hard to measure the real impact Connor had on our running game and the effectiveness of our offense. He is going to be missed far more than people realize.
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2014 is going to be huge.

If this is true then I wouldn't be surprised if we are favored to win the East next year.
I would, with uga and Florida in shambles, they have missouri as the big guys now, and we would still be behind Tennessee somehow.
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I said the exact same thing in another thread. We are going to miss Connor Shaw in this offense. He got a lot of first downs and kept us out of 2nd and 3rd and long with his legs. Dylan's an effective QB but it's hard to measure the real impact Connor had on our running game and the effectiveness of our offense. He is going to be missed far more than people realize.

I'd love to see a stat of how many 1st downs Shaw picked up this year with his feet. Heck, a breakdown for the last three seasons would be interesting too.
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The run game coordinator is the OL coach, something seems funny about that if they can't run block.
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I'd love to see a stat of how many 1st downs Shaw picked up this year with his feet. Heck, a breakdown for the last three seasons would be interesting too.
Same here. Ability to find the first down market is wht makes Connor so dangerous.
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I'll hold my excitement a little on the Oline...Connor bailed them out a bunch this year...something Dylan won't physically be able to do.

I need to see our pass protection, especially from Robinson, improve.

I will say, I'd like to see Waldrop move to guard and let Clayton Stadnick be the full-time center (Waldrop just has the body of a guard to me).

Second string of course I think could be Matulis, B. Stadnick, Knott, Sport and Gibson while we let Zandi, Stanley, King, Park and Rogers get another year of growth.
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I said the exact same thing in another thread. We are going to miss Connor Shaw in this offense. He got a lot of first downs and kept us out of 2nd and 3rd and long with his legs. Dylan's an effective QB but it's hard to measure the real impact Connor had on our running game and the effectiveness of our offense. He is going to be missed far more than people realize.
I agree.
We will truly see just how special Connor was next year...I like Dylan, but he isn't Connor Shaw..and after this season, I think Connor is a better passer than Dylan.

I do think we will see as much zone read next year, and will force our linemen to put a hat on a hat and move the line.

I almost think guys like Robinson and Waldrop need to lose a little weight..maybe get Robinson in the 330 area and Waldrop down to the 310-305 area and get them mobile.
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OL should be better next year. If they stay the same offensive production will be down & sacks up. If the running game stalls like it did in some games this season we are likely in for a long day. If you're gonna drop back & chunk it in the SEC without the threat of a running QB, you better not be doing that in 3rd & long.
Still have nightmares of the 2nd half of last year's UF game where we got in that situation & it was ugly. Their DL got to the QB about the same time as the ball & we just had no chance.

More I formation, less empty backfield & more use of the TE's is what I think we'll see.
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The coaching staff has to find a way to generate a rush offense out of its base packages. They have shown that they can get cute with Pharoh and Mike in the Wildcat and they love to sprinkle in the QB draw .. but when it comes to the base offense, they either have to start getting some push upfront or throw in wrinkles to generate enough rush offense to keep defenses from tee'ing off on Dylan Thompson. Our rush plays outside of the inside zone consisted mostly of the speed option of out the gun, the draw, and a power play out of the I. Not a whole lot of diversity.

I don't think there is any question that the offense will be more on the pass heavy side. Just look at the pass attempts in Dylan's starts. And with Roland, Byrd, Jones, and Cooper returning to go along with Adams/Anderson there is enough firepower on the perimeter to rip up secondaries. But there has got to be some balance sprinkled in. Its starting to become obvious that Mike Davis isn't a 20 carry back so we can't rely on him carrying us an entire game or a long stretch of the season and stay healthy. Brandon Wilds seemingly would be an ideal 20+ carry guy but he just doesn't give you that big play potential. Hopefully the emergence of David Williams will add some more pop to the backfield.

Offensive coaching staff needs to hit the drawing board this Spring.
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I don't think there is any question that the offense will be more on the pass heavy side. Just look at the pass attempts in Dylan's starts. And with Roland, Byrd, Jones, and Cooper returning to go along with Adams/Anderson there is enough firepower on the perimeter to rip up secondaries. But there has got to be some balance sprinkled in. Its starting to become obvious that Mike Davis isn't a 20 carry back so we can't rely on him carrying us an entire game or a long stretch of the season and stay healthy. Brandon Wilds seemingly would be an ideal 20+ carry guy but he just doesn't give you that big play potential. Hopefully the emergence of David Williams will add some more pop to the backfield.

Offensive coaching staff needs to hit the drawing board this Spring.
Perhaps they should take a trip to Wisconsin this off season and hang out with those guys for a little while.
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Perhaps they should take a trip to Wisconsin this off season and hang out with those guys for a little while.
No kidding..you want a power run game with a line that controls scrimmage, watch Wisconsin. Those guys know how to do it.
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No kidding..you want a power run game with a line that controls scrimmage, watch Wisconsin. Those guys know how to do it.
I was screaming at the TV every time they ripped of an 8, 10, or 14 yarder. But if you take a step back and just watch the plays, they really know how to do it right.
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