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Old 01-05-2014, 05:50 PM   #21
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Default Re: If the Playoff were this year, who would be in it?

Can't decide whether to let you guys dream on or help you extricate your heads so you can take a breath of cool clean fresh air.

Under the new system it'll be a cold day in you-know-where before you see two SEC teams in the four selected. SoS is just a smokescreen.

The clowns can't beat us on the field so they intend to politic the SEC out of the equation. What do you think that 15 member committee is all about?

IMO this new system won't be any better than what we currently have until or unless it expands to a min of 8 teams.

About the only diff I see is that teams like the taters will now get their just reward come bowl season. LOL.
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Can't decide whether to let you guys dream on or help you extricate your heads so you can take a breath of cool clean fresh air.

Under the new system it'll be a cold day in you-know-where before you see two SEC teams in the four selected. SoS is just a smokescreen.

The clowns can't beat us on the field so they intend to politic the SEC out of the equation. What do you think that 15 member committee is all about?

IMO this new system won't be any better than what we currently have until or unless it expands to a min of 8 teams.
Well, if the committee starts to **** over the SEC, Slive would consider leaving the NCAA. If Slive wanted the SEC to leave the NCAA, I bet the ACC, Big 12, and others would follow.

The NCAA is on IV right in critical condition. They're raking in money with their political ways but people are tired of them. One more huge mistake, or misjudgement and I think people will finally start looking for other governing bodies.
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My question would be how many SEC teams they would allow in the Playoffs? If the answer is one there may be some problems...
Under the new College Football Playoff system, there will be no limit to the number of teams from a conference that can participate in both the playoffs AND bowls, meaning that (hypothetically), even if the playoff consisted of 4 SEC teams, and SEC team could still go to the Sugar Bowl and then get another "at large" bid.
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We wouldn't be in the final 4 but we would have played in one of the 4 "other BS" bowls.
Which one?

Orange bowl would not have taken us.
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Default Re: If the Playoff were this year, who would be in it?

Actually, Assuming that Auburn and Bama went to the playoff, would we go to the Sugar vs the big 12?

I confess I don't know what the other bowls such as the CFA and Cotton pick from when they are not hosting.
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Actually, Assuming that Auburn and Bama went to the playoff, would we go to the Sugar vs the big 12?

I confess I don't know what the other bowls such as the CFA and Cotton pick from when they are not hosting.
No Mizzou would have.
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No Mizzou would have.

Well that's an option for the bowl. We were the first non BCS team selected for a bowl this year, Mizzou was 2nd/3rd.


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Well that's an option for the bowl. We were the first non BCS team selected for a bowl this year, Mizzou was 2nd/3rd.


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Yea but I feel they would have taken Mizzou because the finished ranked higher.

Also in the new system the conference sends them now.
So actually we MAY have gone to the sugar while orange took Mizzou.
But IMO Orange Bowl would have still taken OSU because they're a bigger draw.
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Default Re: If the Playoff were this year, who would be in it?

As I've said all along, the new format, there's no such thing as a perfect format to please everyone...You could put every team in the nation in a playoff and someone will still get screwed.

We're not picking the "best team" in the nation, we're just picking the team that can stumble through the playoffs under whatever circumstances and win...That may not be the best team in the nation...and therein lies the problem. I have my definition of the characteristics of that team and others have their definition and they may not coincide.
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Default Re: If the Playoff were this year, who would be in it?

Assuming SOS is given equal weight to AP ranking, I reordered the top 15 based on the SOS factor and have a top 4 of Stanford, Auburn, USC, and Oregon. This is by no means definitive, but I just wanted to see how the rankings would adjust. By way of process, I took the strength of schedule and divided by 10 to get it on a scale of 10 (versus a scale of 100). Then I averaged the SOS with the AP Ranking and resorted the grouping. This is the rearranged order:

5. Stanford 11-2 (4)
2. Auburn 12-1 (20)
8. South Carolina 10-2 (30)
10. Oregon 10-2 (28)
9. Missouri 11-2 (31)
14. Louisiana State 9-3 (27)
3. Alabama 11-1 (46)
13. Oklahoma State 10-2 (39)
11. Oklahoma 10-2 (44)
4. Michigan State 12-1 (56)
1. Florida State 13-0 (63)
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15. Central Florida 11-1 (91)
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Oh, I see now.

I don't know. That's the problem with a playoff only having 4 teams. Thought teams complained about the BCS, and not making it to the BCS games. At least with the BCS you knew if you were eligible to make it.

Now it's 4 teams, selected by a committee, and it's up to their discretion if you are going to make it or not. The complaints might triple...
For this reason, 4 teams are just the start, in my opinion. I believe the number will grow to six or eight in the future. Each year in the new system will result in greater numbers of schools and fans clamoring for a better system.
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Auburn, FSU, Michigan St, Stanford.....I don't see two SEC teams making it with the committee.
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Which one?

Orange bowl would not have taken us.
There will be 12 teams that play each year in a big bowl......4 in the final four and another 8. We are ranked #8, how could we not have made it in since there is no restriction on number of teams from any conference.

This year the final 4 would probably have been FSU, Auburn, Alabama and Michigan State.
FSU vs MSU
Bama vs Auburn
This of course would have been determined before any of the bowl games.
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2014 Playoff System

The College Football Playoff (CFP) is the system in American college football that will determine a national champion for the NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS), beginning in the 2014 season. Under the playoff, four teams will play in two semifinal games, with the winners advancing to the new College Football Championship Game. Six of the oldest ten bowl games — the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl, Cotton Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, and Chick-fil-A Bowl — will rotate as hosts for the semifinal games. The rotation is set on a three-year cycle with the following pairings: Rose and Sugar, then Orange and Cotton, and then Fiesta and Chick-fil-A. The semifinals, plus the other four top-tier bowls not hosting semifinals, will be marketed as the "New Year's Six", with three bowls played daily, typically on consecutive days around New Year's Day.
The championship game will be played on the first Monday that is six or more days after the semifinals. The game's venue will be selected based on bids submitted by cities, similar to the Super Bowl or Final Four, with AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas hosting the first title game on January 12, 2015. The winner will be awarded a new trophy instead of the AFCA "crystal football", which has been given to the coaching group's national champion selection since 1986; officials wanted a new trophy that was unconnected with the previous championship system.
Unlike college football's current title system, the Bowl Championship Series, the new format will not use computer rankings or polls in the selection of its 12 participating teams. Rather, a committee of 13 people will select and seed the teams. The playoff system will be the first to determine the top-level NCAA football championship by a bracket competition. The new format is known as a Plus-One system, a proposal which became popular in 2011 as a replacement for the BCS.
The playoff system will be in place through at least the 2025 season per a contract with ESPN, which owns the rights to broadcast all games. The network reportedly paid $7.3 billion overall for the 12-year TV rights. That's 50 million per team (12 teams) per year for 12 years average.

The four-team bracket will pit the No. 1-ranked team against No. 4 and No. 2 vs. No. 3. The selection committee will seed the two semifinal games to prevent the top two seeds from playing in a "road" environment. There will be no limits on the number of teams per conference, in a change from previous BCS rules. Bowl selections will not be determined by conference "automatic qualifier" berths, as used in the BCS, though there will be conference tie-ins for certain non-semifinal bowl games along with an annual guaranteed spot for a mid-major representative.
In years when the bowls are not part of the playoff bracket, the highest-ranked non-playoff teams from the following conferences or groups will be selected as follows:
Rose Bowl — Big Ten #1 vs. Pac-12 #1
Sugar Bowl — SEC #1 vs. Big 12 #1
Orange Bowl — ACC #1 vs. SEC #2, Big Ten #2, or Notre Dame
Cotton Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
Fiesta Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
Chick-fil-A Bowl — at-large or "Group of Five"
Additional selection criteria
The highest-ranked champion from the so-called "Group of Five" mid-major conferences (American Athletic Conference, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West, and Sun Belt) is guaranteed a berth if the group's top team is not in the playoff.
The remaining five at-large bids will be determined by committee rankings.
If the Big Ten or SEC champion is available for a non-playoff bowl in a year when the Rose and Sugar Bowls are hosting semifinals, that team will appear in either the Cotton Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, or Chick-fil-A Bowl, but not the Orange Bowl.
In the Orange Bowl, the SEC and Big Ten are guaranteed at least three appearances during the eight non-playoff years, while Notre Dame can only appear a maximum of twice.
In non-playoff years, if the Orange Bowl matchup creates a regular-season rematch for the ACC representative, the bowl may choose to "skip over" the prescribed opponent from the SEC/Big Ten/Notre Dame group and select the next highest-ranked team from the group. The team that was rejected would be placed in one of the three at-large bowls, if it meets ranking standards.

College Football Championship Game
Cities around the country submit hosting bids for each year's championship game and the playoff group's leaders make a hosting selection from those bids, in a similar fashion to other large sporting events, such as the Super Bowl or Final Four. Leaders say the championship game will be held in a different city each year, and that bids must propose host stadiums with a capacity of at least 65,000 spectators. Under the system, cities cannot host both a semifinal game and the title game in the same year. AT&T Stadium, an NFL stadium in Arlington, Texas, was chosen to host the first game in January 2015.
Four cities submitted bids for the 2016 game: Glendale (University of Phoenix Stadium), Jacksonville (EverBank Field), New Orleans (Mercedes-Benz Superdome), and Tampa (Raymond James Stadium); and six metropolitan areas vied for the 2017 game: the San Francisco Bay Area (Levi's Stadium), Minneapolis (Vikings Stadium), San Antonio (Alamodome), Miami (Sun Life Stadium), Jacksonville, and Tampa. Host selections for the 2016 and 2017 games was announced on December 16, 2013 with Glendale (University of Phoenix Stadium) being awarded 2016 title game and Tampa (Raymond James Stadium) winning the bid for the 2017 finals.
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2014 Playoff System

The College Football Playoff (CFP) is the system in American college football that will determine a national champion for the NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS), beginning in the 2014 season. Under the playoff, four teams will play in two semifinal games, with the winners advancing to the new College Football Championship Game. Six of the oldest ten bowl games the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl, Cotton Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, and Chick-fil-A Bowl will rotate as hosts for the semifinal games. The rotation is set on a three-year cycle with the following pairings: Rose and Sugar, then Orange and Cotton, and then Fiesta and Chick-fil-A. The semifinals, plus the other four top-tier bowls not hosting semifinals, will be marketed as the "New Year's Six", with three bowls played daily, typically on consecutive days around New Year's Day.
The championship game will be played on the first Monday that is six or more days after the semifinals. The game's venue will be selected based on bids submitted by cities, similar to the Super Bowl or Final Four, with AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas hosting the first title game on January 12, 2015. The winner will be awarded a new trophy instead of the AFCA "crystal football", which has been given to the coaching group's national champion selection since 1986; officials wanted a new trophy that was unconnected with the previous championship system.
Unlike college football's current title system, the Bowl Championship Series, the new format will not use computer rankings or polls in the selection of its 12 participating teams. Rather, a committee of 13 people will select and seed the teams. The playoff system will be the first to determine the top-level NCAA football championship by a bracket competition. The new format is known as a Plus-One system, a proposal which became popular in 2011 as a replacement for the BCS.
The playoff system will be in place through at least the 2025 season per a contract with ESPN, which owns the rights to broadcast all games. The network reportedly paid $7.3 billion overall for the 12-year TV rights. That's 50 million per team (12 teams) per year for 12 years average.

The four-team bracket will pit the No. 1-ranked team against No. 4 and No. 2 vs. No. 3. The selection committee will seed the two semifinal games to prevent the top two seeds from playing in a "road" environment. There will be no limits on the number of teams per conference, in a change from previous BCS rules. Bowl selections will not be determined by conference "automatic qualifier" berths, as used in the BCS, though there will be conference tie-ins for certain non-semifinal bowl games along with an annual guaranteed spot for a mid-major representative.
In years when the bowls are not part of the playoff bracket, the highest-ranked non-playoff teams from the following conferences or groups will be selected as follows:
Rose Bowl Big Ten #1 vs. Pac-12 #1
Sugar Bowl SEC #1 vs. Big 12 #1
Orange Bowl ACC #1 vs. SEC #2, Big Ten #2, or Notre Dame
Cotton Bowl at-large or "Group of Five"
Fiesta Bowl at-large or "Group of Five"
Chick-fil-A Bowl at-large or "Group of Five"
Additional selection criteria
The highest-ranked champion from the so-called "Group of Five" mid-major conferences (American Athletic Conference, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West, and Sun Belt) is guaranteed a berth if the group's top team is not in the playoff.
The remaining five at-large bids will be determined by committee rankings.
If the Big Ten or SEC champion is available for a non-playoff bowl in a year when the Rose and Sugar Bowls are hosting semifinals, that team will appear in either the Cotton Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, or Chick-fil-A Bowl, but not the Orange Bowl.
In the Orange Bowl, the SEC and Big Ten are guaranteed at least three appearances during the eight non-playoff years, while Notre Dame can only appear a maximum of twice.
In non-playoff years, if the Orange Bowl matchup creates a regular-season rematch for the ACC representative, the bowl may choose to "skip over" the prescribed opponent from the SEC/Big Ten/Notre Dame group and select the next highest-ranked team from the group. The team that was rejected would be placed in one of the three at-large bowls, if it meets ranking standards.

College Football Championship Game
Cities around the country submit hosting bids for each year's championship game and the playoff group's leaders make a hosting selection from those bids, in a similar fashion to other large sporting events, such as the Super Bowl or Final Four. Leaders say the championship game will be held in a different city each year, and that bids must propose host stadiums with a capacity of at least 65,000 spectators. Under the system, cities cannot host both a semifinal game and the title game in the same year. AT&T Stadium, an NFL stadium in Arlington, Texas, was chosen to host the first game in January 2015.
Four cities submitted bids for the 2016 game: Glendale (University of Phoenix Stadium), Jacksonville (EverBank Field), New Orleans (Mercedes-Benz Superdome), and Tampa (Raymond James Stadium); and six metropolitan areas vied for the 2017 game: the San Francisco Bay Area (Levi's Stadium), Minneapolis (Vikings Stadium), San Antonio (Alamodome), Miami (Sun Life Stadium), Jacksonville, and Tampa. Host selections for the 2016 and 2017 games was announced on December 16, 2013 with Glendale (University of Phoenix Stadium) being awarded 2016 title game and Tampa (Raymond James Stadium) winning the bid for the 2017 finals.
Williams Brice should bid for a game. No way in hell we get turned down, we have a great great atmosphere.
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The NAACP and NCAA wouldn't touch us with a 50 foot pole. Why do you think we've never hosted NCAA basketball tournament games or a bowl game here previously?

We won't host any post-season NCAA games that could possibly be held elsewhere until the whole NAACP boycott thing is cleaned up.
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The NAACP and NCAA wouldn't touch us with a 50 foot pole. Why do you think we've never hosted NCAA basketball tournament games or a bowl game here previously?

We won't host any post-season NCAA games that could possibly be held elsewhere until the whole NAACP boycott thing is cleaned up.
NO one cares about that crap anymore, even Darius Rucker has blew that crap off.
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Because Darius Rucker matters when it comes to state legislation and the NAACP...

The article I linked is from August of this year about a bowl game that is proposed to start in 2014 in Charleston, so it's painfully obvious that people still "care about that crap". You can believe me or not, but this state WILL NOT host any NCAA post-season sporting event that can possibly be held elsewhere until this moratorium is lifted. Period.
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Because Darius Rucker matters when it comes to state legislation and the NAACP...

The article I linked is from August of this year about a bowl game that is proposed to start in 2014 in Charleston, so it's painfully obvious that people still "care about that crap". You can believe me or not, but this state WILL NOT host any NCAA post-season sporting event that can possibly be held elsewhere until this moratorium is lifted. Period.
Jeez take a damn chill pill
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I'm chill bro...just posting my opinion and backing it with facts on an internet chat forum.

Once we get this NAACP shit cleared up, WB would be a great place to hold post-season football games. Hell, as much as I hate to admit it, the other school has a decent stadium, too. And a bowl game in Charleston would pump millions into its economy...Not to mention Colonial Life Arena has the potential to be one of the nicer basketball venues in the southeast.

Would be nice for us to clean this mess up and be able to showcase the world class facilities that we all work so hard to create to the rest of the nation.
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