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Old 01-05-2014, 04:15 PM   #21
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What year is Grady Jarret? He's a pretty good DT.
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Old 01-05-2014, 04:17 PM   #22
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So long as he isn't playing Carolina. I think he will be underwhelming in the NFL. That's not because he is a Clemson player but because I think his character and motivation is questionable and once he gets the money will he still play well. Also I don't think he is a great pure WR and his route running will need work. It really depends on what system he is out into.
Yeah, I am going to have to disagree with you. As a GM, I would be licking my chops to get my hands on a WR of his caliber.
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Alright I guess being one of only 3 true freshmen to ever make the AP first team all america teams means nothing. The others are Herschel and Peterson. He had one incident other than that he did nothing else to get into trouble. He is hands down going to be the first wr taken and Rece Davis even said Watkins is arguably the top prospect in the draft skill wise. They said with his Orange Bowl performance he may have solidified himself as a top 5 pick. Over 200 yds receiving and 2 tds in the OB is crazy. He'll be fine. Had he went to SC im sure yall would be singing his praises as he would have been the #1 receiver the day he stepped on campus there. Just give credit where it is due no matter who he plays for. I have no problem saying Clowney is one of the best DE's to come out probably since Peppers. Dont let the rivalry cloud your judgement like that.

(lets not even talk motivation. What about Clowney skipping summer practices :and the Kentucky game because he was "injured"? All Spurrier had to say was maybe he couldnt play in the opener if he kept missing practice and abra kadabra he was healed and ready to go)
Gee, and I thought the OP was discussing M Bryant, and not S. Watkins. Guess I have reading comprehension problems.
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Probably a mid-late round guy.
6'5 with great speed. Had a very high yard per catch average. He could move up to a higher round with a strong combine. Can't blame the guy for going.
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Lol! Clemson is gonna suck next year.
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Alright I guess being one of only 3 true freshmen to ever make the AP first team all america teams means nothing. The others are Herschel and Peterson. He had one incident other than that he did nothing else to get into trouble. He is hands down going to be the first wr taken and Rece Davis even said Watkins is arguably the top prospect in the draft skill wise. They said with his Orange Bowl performance he may have solidified himself as a top 5 pick. Over 200 yds receiving and 2 tds in the OB is crazy. He'll be fine. Had he went to SC im sure yall would be singing his praises as he would have been the #1 receiver the day he stepped on campus there. Just give credit where it is due no matter who he plays for. I have no problem saying Clowney is one of the best DE's to come out probably since Peppers. Dont let the rivalry cloud your judgement like that.

(lets not even talk motivation. What about Clowney skipping summer practices and the Kentucky game because he was "injured"? All Spurrier had to say was maybe he couldnt play in the opener if he kept missing practice and abra kadabra he was healed and ready to go)

So much orange cool-aid. He is a phenomenal athlete, but not ahead of clowney. Next, I'm sure you watched the game. How many of those catches and yards were on one step screens? Well over half...
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Lol! Clemson is gonna suck next year.
Doubt they will suck but, even if they do, their schedule gifts them nine wins.
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I was just looking at their depth chart. I didn't realize they were losing as many players as they are. They might not suck because they have a pansy schedule, but they will look very different next year.
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Sammy had a great orange bowl, no doubt, but he is not the top wr...he is in the top 5
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Alright I guess being one of only 3 true freshmen to ever make the AP first team all america teams means nothing. The others are Herschel and Peterson. He had one incident other than that he did nothing else to get into trouble. He is hands down going to be the first wr taken and Rece Davis even said Watkins is arguably the top prospect in the draft skill wise. They said with his Orange Bowl performance he may have solidified himself as a top 5 pick. Over 200 yds receiving and 2 tds in the OB is crazy. He'll be fine. Had he went to SC im sure yall would be singing his praises as he would have been the #1 receiver the day he stepped on campus there. Just give credit where it is due no matter who he plays for. I have no problem saying Clowney is one of the best DE's to come out probably since Peppers. Dont let the rivalry cloud your judgement like that.

(lets not even talk motivation. What about Clowney skipping summer practices and the Kentucky game because he was "injured"? All Spurrier had to say was maybe he couldnt play in the opener if he kept missing practice and abra kadabra he was healed and ready to go)
Did I say he sucks??? I just said I don't think his game will translate as well as some think. He seems like a Reggie Bush type to me. Someone who is a stud in college due to the different style of offense but will not be a long lasting elite talent in the pros.

It is amazing how one simple doubt about Walkins made you so upset. Every year there are countless bust or underachievers, I just happen to think Walkins may be one. I don't see him being a stud in the pros for the next 5-10 years, which is what first round talent is expected to be.
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Where did you get this information? I'm not saying you're wrong, just trying to find out which players are definitely leaving.
Breeland going pro has been all over Twitter the last 18 hours or so. I think that's pretty much confirmed. Anthony possibly going pro has been discussed over the last month, and Crawford is a name that's also come up just in the last couple of days. If I were a betting man, I would personally bet on Anthony and Crawford coming back. Just my opinion though.

Shuey is a senior, so he's gone anyways.
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Clemson will take a step back but will still win 8-9 games. I also believe we will have a similar record.
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:17 PM   #33
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So... Is Grady Jarrett going pro? Is he eligible?
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I don't think Bryant is ready, but I have heard he is going pro for personal reasons (needs $$$).

If CU's D plays more consistent, we should survive on O in the ACC (excluding F$U).
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Stephon Anthony should leave. He has done bench time for two years after knees tears. He had a very good year. He can go get paid without injury worries. He doesn't need Dabo lessons.
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Alright I guess being one of only 3 true freshmen to ever make the AP first team all america teams means nothing. The others are Herschel and Peterson. He had one incident other than that he did nothing else to get into trouble. He is hands down going to be the first wr taken and Rece Davis even said Watkins is arguably the top prospect in the draft skill wise. They said with his Orange Bowl performance he may have solidified himself as a top 5 pick. Over 200 yds receiving and 2 tds in the OB is crazy. He'll be fine. Had he went to SC im sure yall would be singing his praises as he would have been the #1 receiver the day he stepped on campus there. Just give credit where it is due no matter who he plays for. I have no problem saying Clowney is one of the best DE's to come out probably since Peppers. Dont let the rivalry cloud your judgement like that.
But how did he play against good physical corners? He has a high ceiling because he is fast but he's only 6'1 maybe 6'2 (anybody that calls him 6'3 is lying). Not super tall. He hasn't shown that he can play physically (at least that I've seen). BTW how many of those catches and yards were off stupid bubble screens? That's not talent to be able to run with the ball. He's fast and he could be a good receiver eventually.
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thread a bit confusing as some r point/counter on watkins and others bryant.
other names mentioned so....
can anyone share knowlege or educated guess on who from CU has announced and who else is expected to and or considering doing so?? thanks WVP
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Yes he is. He is shorter but a much better route runner and more speed. I googled draft prospect and just took first 5 sites that came and 4 out of 5 have him aboved mike evans. Just to see if "experts" agreed with me
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Losing Morris would be much bigger for them than losing their players.

They can try to downplay his impact, but he is what put them on track. Deebo already had his bags packed before they saw what Morris would bring to the table.

Granted, he's yet to do anything against a team with a pulse, but still, he's good enough to run over the majority of the tater schedule. He's basically stopped them from losing the head scratcher games like Maryland, Wake, or Duke.

But as far as Martavis is concerned, I will be shocked if he ever amounts to much. The funny thing is that I think he has a better shot to translate in the pros than Sammy. Just a hunch.
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I will disagree from the standpoint of actual production. In that sense, their cupboard is bare. They have highly rated players, but they are losing a LOT in this cycle without really having anyone behind them that has produced:

QB - Boyd
RB - McDowell
2 WR's - Watkins and Bryant
DE - Beasley

Throw on top of that the coaching carousel has just started and they may yet lose a coordinator.
They will not completely panic. Come on, they are in the ACC which guarantees about 6-7 easy wins for ever a pretty good team.....so they only have to really play hard in the other 4-5 or so games....which may in deed be a major challenge - so they could loose 4 next year...at any rate they will have a pretty good record because of the conference competition and schedule.
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