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Old 01-06-2014, 10:12 AM   #1
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Default What is up with Vic's scout grade?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/sto...n-declarations

Check out his scout grade? Seems exceptionally low.

Sorry if this was already posted.
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Old 01-06-2014, 10:22 AM   #2
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Default Re: What is up with Vic's scout grade?

I'm afraid the young man's going to get burned. I think he should reconsider and return. He NEEDS another year.

If it works out for him, great...

but I think he's taking a big risk.
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Old 01-06-2014, 10:27 AM   #3
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I'm afraid the young man's going to get burned. I think he should reconsider and return. He NEEDS another year.

If it works out for him, great...

but I think he's taking a big risk.
He can't. Already signed w an agent.
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Old 01-06-2014, 10:35 AM   #4
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Default Re: What is up with Vic's scout grade?

I'm saying 4th or 5th round and i hope its higher. Also i don't blame him for leaving like a lot of fans.

Also i have seen a lot of fans on here complain these players get free rides maybe they should know what they are talking about first before they speaks cause most owe 10-14,000 by the time they graduate.

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Default Re: What is up with Vic's scout grade?

Really needed another year to fine tune his game. Could have been a first or second rounder. Maybe he will show something at the combine/pro day and move up. Hope it works out for him.
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Old 01-06-2014, 10:39 AM   #6
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Default Re: What is up with Vic's scout grade?

He won us several games this year. The kid is an instinctive baller who takes some chances. I think he'll do great and will probably go higher than people think. Probably 3rd round.

I can see him translating into a Terrell Buckley type of ballplayer. He may get burned some, but he will outweigh the burns with electric plays.
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Old 01-06-2014, 10:40 AM   #7
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Default Re: What is up with Vic's scout grade?

people forget about the money..the rookie nfl minimum is 400k..vic will be drafted,albeit in later rounds. he will get a signing bonus there..in all reality he will probably make at least a half million..i cant say he is making a mistake by doing that. that is a lowball figure.
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The good news for undrafted players is that, if they make a team, they’ll make a lot more money.

The minimum salaries for NFL players have increased by $55,000 across the board. For 2011, that means rookies will get $375,000. Players with one year of service get $450,000. Two years of service will push the minimum to $525,000.

Players with three years of service will make a minimum of $600,000. For players with four to six years of service, the minimum salary is $685,000. Seven to nine, $810,000.

For players with 10 years or more of service, the minimum salary is $910,000.

The amounts increase $15,000 per year in each of the next four seasons.
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Default Re: What is up with Vic's scout grade?

My guess is that 50 is a baseline for players that have yet to be evaluated.
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Old 01-06-2014, 10:52 AM   #10
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Old 01-06-2014, 10:59 AM   #11
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It's not the baseline. They go all the way to 0. A 50-59 grade means that they think he can have an immediate impact on NFL special teams and may develop into an NFL starter at some point. Guys they grade in the 50's are typically 5th round-ish selections.
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Quarles is the one who should return. Straight foolish of him to go this year.
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Old 01-06-2014, 12:19 PM   #13
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Default Re: What is up with Vic's scout grade?

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My guess is that 50 is a baseline for players that have yet to be evaluated.
MWard is correct. It does start at 0. Below is the grade eval. The link is the full list with grade scale.

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These are usually players that play at a high level in college, but lack some measurables or skills to play at that same level in the NFL. He may be a player that has a lot of developmental qualities, or could be a player that will contribute right away on special teams or in a situational capacity. He will usually rate in the second-third at his position and is considered a fifth round draft choice.
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Old 01-06-2014, 12:41 PM   #14
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I wonder if he knew how he graded out prior to declaring? If not, that's a problem.
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This could be a situation where he had not choice but to go.
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He's sure been spending some money, he better hope it was the right decision.
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He's graded low because he's undisciplined and plays out of position a lot.
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Old 01-06-2014, 04:48 PM   #18
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Default Re: What is up with Vic's scout grade?

I would be surprise if he even gets drafted. maybe a free agent. couple of our players in the nfl haven't really blown anyone away aka Gilmore or DJ. Melvin was a beast yesterday in the wild card game for the chargers.
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I would be surprise if he even gets drafted. maybe a free agent. couple of our players in the nfl haven't really blown anyone away aka Gilmore or DJ. Melvin was a beast yesterday in the wild card game for the chargers.
Gilmore has been starting and hurt his wrist for a couple of weeks.
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