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Old 01-06-2014, 05:33 PM   #21
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Old 01-06-2014, 05:42 PM   #22
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Sure as long as we don't have to have a repeat of the papajohns.com bowl.
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Sure as long as we don't have to have a repeat of the papajohns.com bowl.
have no fear! It is now sponsored by BBVA Compass. A bank I had never heard of until they sponsored a bowl game
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have no fear! It is now sponsored by BBVA Compass. A bank I had never heard of until they sponsored a bowl game
Unless they paid to move the stadium, the only thing that would improve would be avoiding the pregame show lauding papa john for buying himself a sports car. That was the worst.
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All the scars and ridicule and heartache that generations went through with precious little to cheer is what makes our fans different from everyone else.

I find it a badge of honor. It is so easy to be born into a program that has won for decades before you were born and continued it, more or less until the present day, but it warps the appreciation of simply winning and how much work goes into it.

Some may pity our fan base. In reality, I feel some pity them. Hell, yes, I want titles and glory, but to do it without cheating, with a small state population, and with all the backstabbing we have suffered, makes any success like finding water in the desert. It sustains and invigorates. We can laugh at the storied programs that have a down year or two, knowing they could not begin to bear what we have born. Many years ago, a poster on an Auburn was discussing SEC fans and alluded to how staunch we have been with so little in return. He dubbed us "The Iron Fans" of football. Very astute.

I think we can now begin to look at USC football history as Before Spurrier and After Spurrier. The gap is that wide.
I LOVE YOUR POST. You said it so well.

Taking a step back from the rivalry aspect.....this state has so much to be proud of with Clemson and USC. We are a small state. The Atlanta metro area has more people than our entire state. YET, this state has 2 teams who will be in the final top 10, 2 teams that have back to back 11 win seasons.

And like USC, Clemson has seen its share of rough years. Both programs have suffered, and appreciate good times now.

And we aren't like spoiled brat fans of some other programs. Nebraska fires coaches who only win 9 games. They want Pelini gone, and he's got 45 wins in 5 years. There are Ohio State fans who want to fire half their staff today. People were calling for Muschamp to be fired...and he went 11-2 and made the Sugar Bowl last year, and was the last coach to beat FSU.


Im glad we aren't like that, either in-state school. We all get attached to these coaches and players, like they are distant family members or something. I truly think residents or our state and fans of USC and Clemson are better to their coaches and players. We cheer for them and root for them, and aren't demanding they be fired just because of 1 bad year or 1 bad loss.

And because of that, we'll probably keep attracting great coaches in the future.
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If you remember this joke you have been through worse.

Why did South Carolina postpone the Hawaii game?
They could not get past the Pacific?

The Pacific is in reference to losing to University of Pacific Tigers. They don't even have a football team anymore. And of course we lost to Hawaii, got blown out. Also around that time we lost to Furman (1982) and the Citadel (1990).
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Hopefully we can sustain this after the Spurrier era.
Hopefully, but I hope to enjoy this part of the journey for many more years before we have to worry about that.

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