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Old 01-08-2014, 11:06 AM   #61
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Integrity? James Franklin got Vandy in trouble for the first time ever. Like, pretty bad stuff went on there under him.
What trouble did Franklin bring upon Vandy? I can't find anything on him about recruiting violations, improper benefits to players etc. like we've been cited for. I don't see in malfeasance with finances etc. No scandals just seems like a pretty good guy with...integrity. Now player behavior is something not under his total control and I believe he kicked the players off holding them accountable for their own actions.
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I vaguely remember one incident but that was about it. Not even sure what became of it
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If PSU wants Franklin, they will get him. That Vandy job opening would be an interesting one. Could see a couple of names drop in on this one.
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What trouble did Franklin bring upon Vandy? I can't find anything on him about recruiting violations, improper benefits to players etc. like we've been cited for. I don't see in malfeasance with finances etc. No scandals just seems like a pretty good guy with...integrity. Now player behavior is something not under his total control and I believe he kicked the players off holding them accountable for their own actions.
About four or five players last year were involved in some rowdiness, maybe rape or something can't remember exactly but a big deal. The coaches appeared to know about and said/did nothing.
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About four or five players last year were involved in some rowdiness, maybe rape or something can't remember exactly but a big deal. The coaches appeared to know about and said/did nothing.
It was rape and a couple of the players have already agreed to testify against the others. There was a report out that a coach or some coaches were sent a text about it the night it happened and didn't alert the authorities, they may have even tried to help cover it up.

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A new court filing in the case against four former Vanderbilt University football players charged with rape seeks evidence of text messages sent by coaches that lawyers for one of the ex-players think could shed light on what happened.
The filing by attorneys for one of the players offers the first suggestion in court proceedings that members of the Vanderbilt football staff might have had some level of involvement in the incident that would be relevant to the criminal investigation.
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About four or five players last year were involved in some rowdiness, maybe rape or something can't remember exactly but a big deal. The coaches appeared to know about and said/did nothing.
Not sure where you get the "coaches knew" part. Franklin quickly dimissed the two players involved. The other two were former players. The fifth was suspended from the team for trying to cover it up and later agreed to testify against the others.

Sounds like you've got an axe to grind with Vandy.

Penn State wouldn't even mention Franklin's name or interview him otherwise considering Sandusky, etc.
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Not sure where you get the "coaches knew" part. Franklin quickly dimissed the two players involved. The other two were former players. The fifth was suspended from the team for trying to cover it up and later agreed to testify against the others.

Sounds like you've got an axe to grind with Vandy.

Penn State wouldn't even mention Franklin's name or interview him otherwise considering Sandusky, etc.
Did you read the post just above yours?
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Not sure where you get the "coaches knew" part. Franklin quickly dimissed the two players involved. The other two were former players. The fifth was suspended from the team for trying to cover it up and later agreed to testify against the others.

Sounds like you've got an axe to grind with Vandy.

Penn State wouldn't even mention Franklin's name or interview him otherwise considering Sandusky, etc.
True, but there is a lot of question surrounding what happened because the County authorities haven't given the Attorney's what they want...

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Not sure where you get the "coaches knew" part. Franklin quickly dimissed the two players involved. The other two were former players. The fifth was suspended from the team for trying to cover it up and later agreed to testify against the others.

Sounds like you've got an axe to grind with Vandy.

Penn State wouldn't even mention Franklin's name or interview him otherwise considering Sandusky, etc.


And just how do you know this to be true?
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Did you read the post just above yours?
About Franklin's name being mentioned as part of a cover-up? I read about that a while back and think it's complete BS.

Again, Penn State wouldn't even mention his name if there was anything to that.
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About Franklin's name being mentioned as part of a cover-up? I read about that a while back and think it's complete BS.

Again, Penn State wouldn't even mention his name if there was anything to that.
Again read what is written I never said Franklin, I said coaches. Bo quite smoking pot this early in the morning
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And just how do you know this to be true?
Are you serious??

So Penn State, which had the biggest sexual assault and cover-up scandal in football history, who was slapped hard by the NCAA and is being sued for millions and millions of dollars...they would entertain the idea of hiring a coach who might even be remotely involved in sex scandal and cover up at his own school??
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Are you serious??

So Penn State, which had the biggest sexual assault and cover-up scandal in football history, who was slapped hard by the NCAA and is being sued for millions and millions of dollars...they would entertain the idea of hiring a coach who might even be remotely involved in sex scandal and cover up at his own school??
Welp it does seem unlikely but you know Ped St. still has some of the same administrators on staff that knew about Sandusky and did nothing to stop it.

But other than appearances what proof do you have that Ped St. is above interviewing Franklin while knowing there maybe a scandal involved?
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About Franklin's name being mentioned as part of a cover-up? I read about that a while back and think it's complete BS.

Again, Penn State wouldn't even mention his name if there was anything to that.
So you admit you reading something about the cover up yet you are willing to call someone out on this board as having an "axe to grind over Ped St." Sound like you are sunshine pumper for Ped St.?......I am just have some fun with you Bo but you are making a lot of assumptions with nothing to back it up!
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What trouble did Franklin bring upon Vandy? I can't find anything on him about recruiting violations, improper benefits to players etc. like we've been cited for. I don't see in malfeasance with finances etc. No scandals just seems like a pretty good guy with...integrity. Now player behavior is something not under his total control and I believe he kicked the players off holding them accountable for their own actions.
I think player behavior does say something about the coach. We have certainly had less shenanigans since Spurrier took over and Ray Tanner always had less because they wouldn't put up with it.

Just a difference of opinion.
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Franklin may have screwed up and let this one get away.
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I didn't think he got In trouble with the NCAA
What Petrino pulled off was a Human Resources nightmare. Over 150 applied for the job that girl got, and he was boinking her on the side. That basically means everyone (and I mean everyone) internally and externally that applied for that job and was not accepted could potentially sue the University for hostile work environment and get a big fat class action lawsuit. Why they never did, I don't know. I am not all for suing for no reason, but in this case if you really had qualifications for the job and it went to someone Petrino was having relations with you do have an actual beef. Oh, and it was a public institution too. This, more than any other reason, was why he had to be fired and fired quickly. People keep saying he was fired for having an affair. No, he wasn't, he was fired because of how much liability he was financially for the college now.

Now fast forward a little to Louisville. You are hiring a guy that was let go because of what I just described. If ANYTHING close to that happens again, you open Louisville up to even worse lawsuits because you KNOWINGLY took a guy with a history of hostile work environment and hired him anyway.

Just saying, its risky.
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Franklin may have screwed up and let this one get away.
Maybe Franklin didn't want it but used it for a better contract, or to make himself even more attractable to a NFL team.

Then again, maybe he's coaching in Happy Valley by the end of the week.
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What Petrino pulled off was a Human Resources nightmare. Over 150 applied for the job that girl got, and he was boinking her on the side. That basically means everyone (and I mean everyone) internally and externally that applied for that job and was not accepted could potentially sue the University for hostile work environment and get a big fat class action lawsuit. Why they never did, I don't know. I am not all for suing for no reason, but in this case if you really had qualifications for the job and it went to someone Petrino was having relations with you do have an actual beef. Oh, and it was a public institution too. This, more than any other reason, was why he had to be fired and fired quickly. People keep saying he was fired for having an affair. No, he wasn't, he was fired because of how much liability he was financially for the college now.

Now fast forward a little to Louisville. You are hiring a guy that was let go because of what I just described. If ANYTHING close to that happens again, you open Louisville up to even worse lawsuits because you KNOWINGLY took a guy with a history of hostile work environment and hired him anyway.

Just saying, its risky.

The poster thought he got a show cause penalty.
He did not.

That's all I was referring to buddy, didn't need to reiterate what everyone knows happened.
(Actually what am I saying, thanks for that, 95% of this board has no idea what happened)
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Are you serious??

So Penn State, which had the biggest sexual assault and cover-up scandal in football history, who was slapped hard by the NCAA and is being sued for millions and millions of dollars...they would entertain the idea of hiring a coach who might even be remotely involved in sex scandal and cover up at his own school??
Who knows? Stranger things have happened in the world of College Football.
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