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Old 01-08-2014, 10:54 PM   #61
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This is really year 1 with his kids. Last year was a cleaning house year. This will be a long process. Three years at least. We have not ben relevant in 15 years, you can't fix that in 3 years. Look how long it took in football.

The plus in basketball is that you only need a few good players to compete, but it also means you can't miss on recruits either. Give it time.
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This is year 2, and all of his recruits except the transfer, Tyrone Johnson, are underclassmen.
The problem with most gamecock fans is that they don't understand basketball. They for whatever reason think any recruit that comes here is supposed to make an immediate impact. If you followed Thornwell's recruitment at all, you would know that he was not supposed to be someone that would completely change everything in year one, especially by himself. We didn't lose that game because we lack talent. We lost this game because we are playing 1 senior and 1 junior along with 7-8 freshmen and sophomores. Florida starts 4 seniors and 1 sophomore. Not to mention they outrecruit us. So for anyone to think that we are not on the verge of being a top half of the conference team or better, is not watching, and does not understand the game.
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This is really year 1 with his kids. Last year was a cleaning house year. This will be a long process. Three years at least. We have not ben relevant in 15 years, you can't fix that in 3 years. Look how long it took in football.

The plus in basketball is that you only need a few good players to compete, but it also means you can't miss on recruits either. Give it time.
We are not out recruiting Andrew Wiggins and bringing in that level of talent. We are bringing in kids that need time to develop and gain confidence and understand the system. The growth is very evident in guys like Williams, Johnson, and Notice. It takes some guys a little longer. Thornwell is going to come around.
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I saw some promising play at times and a bunch of hustle .. I'm going out on a limb and say we grew up a lot tonight

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Old 01-08-2014, 11:31 PM   #65
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If you could not see that our team play has improved then I don't know what to say.

We would've been beat by 35+ in that game tonight the previous two years. We have a way to go but we are getting better.
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Old 01-08-2014, 11:34 PM   #66
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I have tickets to the LSU game for Saturday as a b-day gift. Maybe they can pull out a win
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Other than the way the game started we did ok
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There were stretches late 1st half and early in the 2nd half where the team looked really good .. The turnover after cutting the lead down from 15 to 8 was a momentum killer.
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I can see the improvement in the team. I also see some of the problem areas that will be hard to solve. We're not as athletic on the frontcourt as most teams. It showed a little tonight. But I love the way the guys fight
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I love winning and I love basketball; all we need to do is look at Dawn Staley's program building and we will see the future of Frank's program.
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Two things

1) We are terrible stopping teams off the dribble. Florida shot 80% from 2pt.
2) 21 turnovers.

That's essentially the story of this game.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:23 AM   #72
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It wasn't that bad really. Started badly. We played them pretty even once we settled down. Just couldn't close the gap.
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Didnt see the game, but it seemed like they played pretty well against a very good team on the road in a tough environment.
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A few things:

1. Anyone blaming Frank Martin knows nothing about college basketball. Basketball programs aren't rebuilt in 1 season unless you're John Calipari, who isn't comparable to any coach in regards to his recruiting. Do you remember how long it took Spurrier to rebuild the football program? The Gamecocks have been one of the worst basketball programs in the SEC for a while now. This isn't an overnight project.

2. This year's Florida team is a Final Four caliber team. The Gamecocks are the youngest team in the SEC. We have 7 freshmen and 5 sophomores. 2 of our upperclassmen left the team or are unable to play basketball anymore. Stop acting shocked that we're losing games to good teams or not winning games we might be favored to win. This is a completely different team from last season and is depending on underclassmen.
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A few things:

1. Anyone blaming Frank Martin knows nothing about college basketball. Basketball programs aren't rebuilt in 1 season unless you're John Calipari, who isn't comparable to any coach in regards to his recruiting. Do you remember how long it took Spurrier to rebuild the football program? The Gamecocks have been one of the worst basketball programs in the SEC for a while now. This isn't an overnight project.

2. This year's Florida team is a Final Four caliber team. The Gamecocks are the youngest team in the SEC. We have 7 freshmen and 5 sophomores. 2 of our upperclassmen left the team or are unable to play basketball anymore. Stop acting shocked that we're losing games to good teams or not winning games we might be favored to win. This is a completely different team from last season and is depending on underclassmen.
Good points. The biggest difference I saw between them and us is the pure physical difference. Those guys have clearly been in a college weight room for 4 years and we looked scrawny. When Henry and Ringer (Ringer is already a big guy) add some bulk, and this team is a team full of juniors and seniors (with the addition of Stroman) we are going to be VERY tough. Add on Dozier to that, and you're looking at a high quality, NCAA bound team.
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Good points. The biggest difference I saw between them and us is the pure physical difference. Those guys have clearly been in a college weight room for 4 years and we looked scrawny. When Henry and Ringer (Ringer is already a big guy) add some bulk, and this team is a team full of juniors and seniors (with the addition of Stroman) we are going to be VERY tough. Add on Dozier to that, and you're looking at a high quality, NCAA bound team.
Yea, that Patric Young is a beast. I really thought he'd enter the draft last year.
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1) We are terrible stopping teams off the dribble. Florida shot 80% from 2pt.
2) 21 turnovers.

That's essentially the story of this game.
Pretty much this. We can't stop the dribble drive while in man-to-man, and when we switch to zone to stop the dribble, we can't rebound.

But, we are getting better, and I fully expect to see additional improvement this year as our young guys get more experience and get used to the quickness, size and power at the D-1 level.
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