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Old 01-10-2014, 08:17 AM   #21
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Is Martin really that unimpressive?
No. His resume is really good. He has been limited by two hamstring injuries. I don't know why the other poster thinks he stinks so badly. Maybe his size. But Martin has the S&C program to put on some muscle in the off season. I think it is premature to write Martin off.
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Old 01-10-2014, 10:33 AM   #22
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I thought Martin played safety in HS. I watched a lot of his videos and the guy loves to hit, but I'm not so sure of his cover skills.
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Old 01-10-2014, 10:40 AM   #23
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Martin didn't travel with the team one time this past year. Was that due to injury? What does he have left 1 to play 1 or 2 to play 2?
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It's kinda scary that Martin may be a starter. I really think if we weren't so short on CB's, he would fit the bill as somewhere who helps "make the numbers work."
Please explain how you and others keep coming to this notion that Martin is not good enough to play here??

Just b/c it's Tony Morrell's opinion and then 50 people on here reiterate it DOES NOT mean it's valid.
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exactly.....I don't to see him back next season.
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Default Re: as of now, who is in the cb 2 deep for

Rico and Jamari will be the starters IMO.

Who cracks the 2 deep could be either Groves, Martin, or 1 of the incoming freshmen.

I don't see Harris jr having an impact. DJ Smith could. Lammons or Green are immediately in the 2 deep if they sign
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I'm excited to see what happens. Good odds that the top 4-5 will play between injuries and the coaches trying to find the right combination for the regular rotation.
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If your not in the top 10 in recruiting year in and year out, you'll face these problems.
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I think Rico McWilliams, if he rehabbed well enough from his previous injuries could be a stud corner.
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I'm excited to see what happens. Good odds that the top 4-5 will play between injuries and the coaches trying to find the right combination for the regular rotation.
We barely have 4 much less a top 4-5.

We need Lammons, smith and Green
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I thought Martin played safety in HS. I watched a lot of his videos and the guy loves to hit, but I'm not so sure of his cover skills.
Nope. He played corner and the local schools (Byrnes, Dorman, boiling springs ) threw away from him all year.
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If your not in the top 10 in recruiting year in and year out, you'll face these problems.
I don't think that's an accurate statement. Recruiting classes are ranked on a number of things, but are heavily impacted by the caliber or "stars" of a recruit - not necessarily the size of the class.

Auburn, Alabama, and Florida state are the ONLY 3 schools to be in the top 10 in recruiting since 2010.

So while recruiting may (or may not, someone would have to do intensive research) have a direct correlation with winning, it doesn't necessarily have a direct impact on depth and numbers.

This wouldn't be a huge issue if Ahmad transfered, and Vic stayed, or Vic left and Ahmad stayed. It's the fact that they both decided to leave that hurt.
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Oh lord.
Honestly, what is wrong with what I said? It wasn't even an attack on you. It was just an informing post about how teams who aren't in the top 10 recruiting yearly don't have this problem.

There are a lot of programs out there that fail to reach the top 10 more than once or twice a decade that have great seasons and depth. I can think of a few right now: TCU/Boise St didn't finish in the top 10 this decade at all. Stanford and Oregon reached the top 10 only once and twice respectively.

You think I'm an ass, and I get that. I admit, sometimes when you post ill-informed "facts", I enjoy proving you wrong. But sometimes, like just now (above), it was simply to inform you - and others.
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Its not the fault of our recruiting classes not being ranked in the top 10 for our current cb shortage. Rather over the last 3-4 years we stopped recruiting true corners and went to recruiting safety type players at corner. Example of this is Chaz Elders, who we recruited as a corner. Hope that trend has ended!
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Its not the fault of our recruiting classes not being ranked in the top 10 for our current cb shortage. Rather over the last 3-4 years we stopped recruiting true corners and went to recruiting safety type players at corner. Example of this is Chaz Elders, who we recruited as a corner. Hope that trend has ended!
A lot of people forget that Whammy has a philosophy. It expects his Dbs to be interchangible. That philosophy allows him to better disguise coverages. IOW, Whammy wants all DBs to play all DB positions. With this in mind, it is not surprising he is recruiting larger sized athletes like Elder and expects them to be capable of playing corner. Keep in mind we had a 200 lb corner, and a 6'1" corner as starters this year.
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