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Old 01-12-2014, 03:27 PM   #1
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Default New Rules For ACC Title Game?

Wants NCAA to allow top 2 teams to play for the championship. This is how every conference should be IMO. would make it more interesting.

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"Hey, NCAA. Duke went to our conference championship this year. So . . . will you let us change our rules for qualifications?" -ACC
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They also want to chance so FSU will be moved to the other side....wonder if that will happen. Then they would want UL moved before they start... and maybe ND if they ever join the ACC in FB! Please somebody help Dabo so he could win at least one side of the ACC!!!!
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Looks like the ACC just screwed up in divisional alignment, after adding the Big East boys, by assuming Va Tech and Miami(FL) would be worth a damn in football.
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So what would be the point of divisions then? Do a rotating schedule with every team in your conference, annually with "rivalries" in your conference. As conferences grow, a rule change like this would render divisions counterproductive.
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So what would be the point of divisions then? Do a rotating schedule with every team in your conference, annually with "rivalries" in your conference. As conferences grow, a rule change like this would render divisions counterproductive.
But it would still allow the crowning of a division "champ", right? Participation trophies at a high level, I suppose.
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What happens if there are two teams tied for second at 10-2 and didn't play each other? What the tiebreaker?

Coin flip? Ranking? Better basketball team?
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It will be interesting to see VT's offense without Logan Thomas. Beamer seemed committed to him regardless of his play. Miami ended up a disappointment this year too. LV with new coaches and w/o Bridgewater is an unknown at this point. FSU is still the clear front runner, regardless who the other team in the championship game.

I admit the ACC is weak in FB, but its not FSU's or CU's fault most of the other teams underachieve. At least Duke is clawing its way up. ND getting on many ACC teams schedule should help RE SoS.
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Blah, that would have meant Auburn vs Alabama in the SECCG a week after the Iron Bowl.
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So what would be the point of divisions then? Do a rotating schedule with every team in your conference, annually with "rivalries" in your conference. As conferences grow, a rule change like this would render divisions counterproductive.

I think the whole purpose is to end divisional play. All leagues should do this. With the Playoff starting next year, we don't need to see a 6-6 UCLA or a 6-6 GT playing for a league title just because they had the good fortune of being in a division that was either lousy or the better team was on probation...

Also, the larger each conference gets, you still want as much flexibility in a league schedule to be able play everyone a few times. Division play commits a 14 team conference like the ACC and SEC the same 6 teams in an 8-game schedule every year.

Now where the ACC "play" in this is most likely to get Notre Dame full time. I hate them, but they are a national brand that draws huge crowds anywhere they play and the TV audience is usually strong. Notre Dame would probably like splitting the money with 15 schools rather than 16 schools just like the Big 12 is in no hurry of expanding....Also the ACC wants to launch a network and studies show that it would have access to more home than any other league being an entire east coast and the Notre Area availability. With both a strong Basketball and Football product to offer, the ACC probably wants this change more for the money than stacking the deck like some of the silly people are suggesting on the message boards...
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Doesn't matter to me if FSU blows them out before or after we do....
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The ACC only wants this because Duke won the division.... This is stupid keep the divisional play. Win your division and you have a chance at the Conference.
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I think the whole purpose is to end divisional play. All leagues should do this. With the Playoff starting next year, we don't need to see a 6-6 UCLA or a 6-6 GT playing for a league title just because they had the good fortune of being in a division that was either lousy or the better team was on probation...

Also, the larger each conference gets, you still want as much flexibility in a league schedule to be able play everyone a few times. Division play commits a 14 team conference like the ACC and SEC the same 6 teams in an 8-game schedule every year.

Now where the ACC "play" in this is most likely to get Notre Dame full time. I hate them, but they are a national brand that draws huge crowds anywhere they play and the TV audience is usually strong. Notre Dame would probably like splitting the money with 15 schools rather than 16 schools just like the Big 12 is in no hurry of expanding....Also the ACC wants to launch a network and studies show that it would have access to more home than any other league being an entire east coast and the Notre Area availability. With both a strong Basketball and Football product to offer, the ACC probably wants this change more for the money than stacking the deck like some of the silly people are suggesting on the message boards...
I swear on my life I don't mean this as smack, but you probably knew something like this was coming anyway.

In whose mind will the ACC have a strong football product to offer, even if the rules change to this? Changing a rule within the conference won't miraculously make them have better showings outside of the league.
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This looks like certain teams would end up with even more cake walk schedules, and I bet those teams would just happened to be named Florida State.

I mean, "you wouldn't have to play each team in your division." Then why do you have the division in the first place?

Me personally, I think division championship should be selected by division play only, and overall conference record being a tie breaker. Like 2 years ago, how can you tell a team that beat every single team in their division that they're not the best team of that division? Their record outside of that only proves they may not be the best team of the conference, but their the best of the division.
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This looks like certain teams would end up with even more cake walk schedules, and I bet those teams would just happened to be named Florida State.

I mean, "you wouldn't have to play each team in your division." Then why do you have the division in the first place?

Me personally, I think division championship should be selected by division play only, and overall conference record being a tie breaker. Like 2 years ago, how can you tell a team that beat every single team in their division that they're not the best team of that division? Their record outside of that only proves they may not be the best team of the conference, but their the best of the division.
Come on Cack, you need to quit bringing logic into the discussion.
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This looks like certain teams would end up with even more cake walk schedules, and I bet those teams would just happened to be named Florida State.

I mean, "you wouldn't have to play each team in your division." Then why do you have the division in the first place?

Me personally, I think division championship should be selected by division play only, and overall conference record being a tie breaker. Like 2 years ago, how can you tell a team that beat every single team in their division that they're not the best team of that division? Their record outside of that only proves they may not be the best team of the conference, but their the best of the division.
Think about it. It is a good point. Conferences could provide a really good team (FSU, Clem) with a super easy schedule so that they could qualify for the playoff and represent their conference. They could just roll out the red carpet. I smell something fishy.
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Think about it. It is a good point. Conferences could provide a really good team (FSU, Clem) with a super easy schedule so that they could qualify for the playoff and represent their conference. They could just roll out the red carpet. I smell something fishy.
But then the best team, may have to play the 2nd best team that is in their division AGAIN and possibly get knocked off. How would that help qualify for a playoff? The year Clemson beat FSU, do you think I would have wanted to see FSU again in the ACCCG?
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