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Old 01-13-2014, 12:24 AM   #41
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The announcer said Shula's playcall on the 31 yard touchdown pass was wonderful. They were giving him a lot of praise.
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Evans ain't gonna happen, unless we trade up - but he's def the most megatron-like prospect.

Richardson had a good game against Clowney in '12, but JD pretty much hosed him this season. Exposed some problems, to be sure.

I'd really rather have a faster, more play-making type than SR, who is more a possession receiver.

Weren't we negative in cap space at that point?

(1) I think Matthews is projecting as a late 1st/2nd round pick, and could be available.
(2) There's an excellent CB from Michigan St that might (with some luck) be around, as well.

I don't know. We've got Bruce Campbell on IR. Be interesting to see guards Silatolu and Kulbiga (the controversial draft pick last year), also coming off IR.
I was talking about Jake. I don't think Jordan Matthews is worthy of a first round pick.
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F you Marty. The team is spending a ton on the O thanks to shitty deals and yet the O is the major problem.
That's Albert Haynesworth scale incompetence, there. And for a damn RB? Could pick up a FA to do (reasonably near) the same thing for mil or two a year.
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Glad I'm not the only one that thought that!

Your boys have a good team with potential to be much better. No shame in losing to a good team. Here's to a good offseason and daft.
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:04 AM   #46
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Probably time to start looking for a replacement for Steve Smith. He's getting up there in age. Not saying we get rid of him. Just saying we need to be thinking ahead. Need a RB, OL, and still need to try and make our secondary better. Not sure what we do with Hardy. I want to keep him. Tagging him might be the only way.

That said, what a surprising year for us. Hopefully we can keep building on it.
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Your boys have a good team with potential to be much better. No shame in losing to a good team. Here's to a good offseason and daft.
I just don't get it. It was obvious what the call was, he didn't need to try and "fool" anyone. especially with a weak attempt like that!
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I just don't get it. It was obvious what the call was, he didn't need to try and "fool" anyone. especially with a weak attempt like that!
He was trying to get a personal foul called to get an automatic 1st down.
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Cam wore these in pregame warmups yesterday. He opted for the Hello Kitty ones in the 2nd half.

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Probably time to start looking for a replacement for Steve Smith. He's getting up there in age.
Couldn't disagree more. He's the one true WR the Panthers have and hasn't aged a bit.

Unfortunately Cam never looked his way in the 2nd half...which he's done quite a bit this season. We need someone to replace LaFell. And I think it's time we parted ways with both DeAngelo and Stewart...both huge disappointments this year.
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Couldn't disagree more. He's the one true WR the Panthers have and hasn't aged a bit.

Unfortunately Cam never looked his way in the 2nd half...which he's done quite a bit this season. We need someone to replace LaFell. And I think it's time we parted ways with both DeAngelo and Stewart...both huge disappointments this year.
Unfortunately we can't. We'd be paying them something like 5 mil a piece to NOT play for us. I don't think they're trade value is high with the insane contracts Hurney gave both of them. Hurney strikes again.

And I wasn't saying to get rid of Smith but we don't wanna get stuck holding the bag in 2 or 3 years when he decides to hang it up or his skills diminish him to a #2 WR.
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Couldn't disagree more. He's the one true WR the Panthers have and hasn't aged a bit.

Unfortunately Cam never looked his way in the 2nd half...which he's done quite a bit this season. We need someone to replace LaFell. And I think it's time we parted ways with both DeAngelo and Stewart...both huge disappointments this year.
The only reason I would be hesitant to get rid of Williams too is because I don't know who might be available that could be a true starting tailback. Is there someone who will be in the draft who I'm just not aware of or a free agent? But overall, our traditional running game was extremely underwhelming in the 2013 season, so I'm definitely open to the idea of getting some new legs back there, as long as those legs are up to the task.
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Unfortunately we can't. We'd be paying them something like 5 mil a piece to NOT play for us. I don't think they're trade value is high with the insane contracts Hurney gave both of them. Hurney strikes again.

And I wasn't saying to get rid of Smith but we don't wanna get stuck holding the bag in 2 or 3 years when he decides to hang it up or his skills diminish him to a #2 WR.
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The only reason I would be hesitant to get rid of Williams too is because I don't know who might be available that could be a true starting tailback. Is there someone who will be in the draft who I'm just not aware of or a free agent? But overall, our traditional running game was extremely underwhelming in the 2013 season, so I'm definitely open to the idea of getting some new legs back there, as long as those legs are up to the task.
We were 26th in the league in total offense. I know DeAngelo and Stewart both restructured their contracts this past year. So cap wise, we're okay. But I think DeAngelo is way over hyped and not worth a nickel. Stewart is the better back but can't stay healthy. Catch-22 I know. And you're right, we're going to feel the effects of Hurney for years to come. Maybe we can draft a RB later in the draft and get lucky. Personally I think Shula needs to be fired. He is clueless as an OC and it showed yesterday.
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We were 26th in the league in total offense. I know DeAngelo and Stewart both restructured their contracts this past year. So cap wise, we're okay. But I think DeAngelo is way over hyped and not worth a nickel. Stewart is the better back but can't stay healthy. Catch-22 I know. And you're right, we're going to feel the effects of Hurney for years to come. Maybe we can draft a RB later in the draft and get lucky. Personally I think Shula needs to be fired. He is clueless as an OC and it showed yesterday.
Stewart has been hurt for the better part of his career. I'll never understand why Hurney gave him the contract that he got. I really don't want them to move Tolbert but he may be the odd man out if we look for a late round RB.
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We were 26th in the league in total offense. I know DeAngelo and Stewart both restructured their contracts this past year. So cap wise, we're okay. But I think DeAngelo is way over hyped and not worth a nickel. Stewart is the better back but can't stay healthy. Catch-22 I know. And you're right, we're going to feel the effects of Hurney for years to come. Maybe we can draft a RB later in the draft and get lucky. Personally I think Shula needs to be fired. He is clueless as an OC and it showed yesterday.
I think Shula basically kept Chudzinski's system, so I' fine with his scheme, and I love the fact the verbiage is much simpler, but it's his decisions on plays that baffle me. It's like he doesn't have a good feel for the game. If we could keep the same system (including the actual calls) and just have someone who has a better feel for the game call the plays, I would be fine.
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Stewart has been hurt for the better part of his career. I'll never understand why Hurney gave him the contract that he got. I really don't want them to move Tolbert but he may be the odd man out if we look for a late round RB.
Gosh I hope they don't get rid of Tolbert. The dude is all we got in the backfield. Stewart probably has some trade value, although it won't be much.
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I think Shula basically kept Chudzinski's system, so I' fine with his scheme, and I love the fact the verbiage is much simpler, but it's his decisions on plays that baffle me. It's like he doesn't have a good feel for the game. If we could keep the same system (including the actual calls) and just have someone who has a better feel for the game call the plays, I would be fine.
Shula greater underutilized Cam's legs this year. I don't know if he told Cam to stay in the pocket and not run for fear of getting him hurt or what. But teams knew he wasn't going to run and could tee off on him like SF did yesterday.

I would love to see Shula replaced, but that's not going to happen. The only thing people look at is the W-L record. I think he's coaching in the Pro Bowl too.
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I think Benjamin will be available, Watkins, Lee, and Evans will most likely go ahead of him.
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I am beginning to think Cam Newton is not the best choice at QB for the Carolina Panthers. For the most part, he plays selfishly. Like a Kobe Bryant of the NFL.
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