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Old 01-14-2014, 05:34 PM   #161
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personally, i can only be aware of the rivalry in my lifetime. anything prior, and i have to look it up in a history book. hell, there were even several years REALLY early in my life that i do not recall...

that being said, clemson has NEVER had a run, in my lifetime, as dominant as Carolina has had the past 5 years.
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Probably in most peoples lifetime... Thats what the dumb inbred slobber mouths from pickens seem to forget. In Modern Era football the rivalry is about even. But they want to bring up the leather helmet and no helmet years like they remember those games.
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Old 01-14-2014, 05:37 PM   #162
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Did Spiller really improve his draft stock? He was a projected first rounder after his junior season, as evidenced by this article below. In this article it talks about Spiller receiving a 1st round grade.

http://www.myorangeupdate.com/2013/1...h-nfl-options/

And according to what I read about the Draft Advisor Board, they don't give specifics on WHEN you will be picked in the 1st round. Just that you will potentially be a 1st round selection

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft_Advisory_Board

So therefore, I don't think Spiller IMPROVED his draft stock. If anything, it stayed the same.
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Old 01-14-2014, 06:34 PM   #164
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It is a little different for defensive players, in that the other team gets to dictate your production. If the young man WANTS to come back then more power to him. I think we need to call this sales pitch from Dabo exactly what it is and the media needs to stop giving him a pass on it. It makes no sense to tell a kid, "If you aren't a guaranteed first round pick it is better for you to stay" when you are talking to a kid with a high 2nd round grade that is as high as the top 10 in some mock drafts. That is a straight up lie. And I know WHY he does it, he does it to help clempson. And that's his job, but the media shouldn't play along! It is not "better" for you stay, by any reasonable measurement.
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Spiller was a 1st round pick after his junior year. He turned that into a top ten pick by returning. Boyd didn't help his stock at all and may have decreased it by returning. Beasley has hit his ceiling.
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You must have been born in 2009 then.



Its tied at 7 a piece starting in 2000. Clemson had it 7-2 until 2009. If you go back to 1990, it's Clemson hands down. Just saying that it isn't one sided in Carolin's favor in your lifetime. Since 09', yes.
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Spiller was a 1st round pick after his junior year. He turned that into a top ten pick by returning. Boyd didn't help his stock at all and may have decreased it by returning. Beasley has hit his ceiling.
The NFL will be there. He might just want to finish his degree and he will never get his college life back once he goes. He is a different cat that marches to the beat of a different drum. Heck he works out at a crappy Golds Gym rather than a multimillion dollar athletic faciltiy when he can.
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Dabo is a con man who is only looking out for himself. There is no way in hell this guy should come back to college right now with the great year he just had. It blows my mind that people don't see through Dabo and see he is a total douche trying to constantly beg these guys to come back.
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Dabo is a con man who is only looking out for himself. There is no way in hell this guy should come back to college right now with the great year he just had. It blows my mind that people don't see through Dabo and see he is a total douche trying to constantly beg these guys to come back.
Yes because it worked so well with Bryant and Breeland who decided right after the OB to go pro. Neither of those guys will be in the top 3 rounds I bet. Heck, Breeland stands a chance of not even getting drafted I would imagine since it isn't like he was tearing it up on the corners.
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Yes because it worked so well with Bryant and Breeland who decided right after the OB to go pro. Neither of those guys will be in the top 3 rounds I bet. Heck, Breeland stands a chance of not even getting drafted I would imagine since it isn't like he was tearing it up on the corners.
He should have told them to come back, but obviously they didn't listen. I am talking about him trying to talk guys into coming back who have no reason in the world to play another year of college football. If he was an honest guy he would just be blunt with Beasley and tell him he would be better off to leave right now, but that wouldn't help his team win games next year. They won't even need him anyway considering all they have to do is show up in most of their games and beat the horrible teams they play.
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You must have been born in 2009 then.



Its tied at 7 a piece starting in 2000. Clemson had it 7-2 until 2009. If you go back to 1990, it's Clemson hands down. Just saying that it isn't one sided in Carolin's favor in your lifetime. Since 09', yes.
Hmm...since we joined a conference in 1992 its 12-10. Hardly dominating.
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Hmm...since we joined a conference in 1992 its 12-10. Hardly dominating.
Well, as the one guy mentioned that he has never seen a run like this in his lifetime, you don't consider winning 10 out of 12 games from 97' to 08' as a dominating Clemson run in someones lifetime that would be posting on cockytalk? I imagine most posters are in their mid 20s and up.

Now if you wanna ask my 4 year old daughter and 2 year old son, then maybe.
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Well, as the one guy mentioned that he has never seen a run like this in his lifetime, you don't consider winning 10 out of 12 games from 97' to 08' as a dominating Clemson run in someones lifetime that would be posting on cockytalk? I imagine most posters are in their mid 20s and up.

Now if you wanna ask my 4 year old daughter and 2 year old son, then maybe.
Your 4 year old has never seen clempson win, asking for her thoughts would be fun.
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So did Dabo get on his knees and convince Beasley to stay or is he going pro?
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So did Dabo get on his knees and convince Beasley to stay or is he going pro?
http://www.greenvilleonline.com/arti...s-options-open

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personally, i can only be aware of the rivalry in my lifetime. anything prior, and i have to look it up in a history book. hell, there were even several years REALLY early in my life that i do not recall...

that being said, clemson has NEVER had a run, in my lifetime, as dominant as Carolina has had the past 5 years.
terry bowden owned sc..u are young or forgetful..he may not have won 5 in a row but he owned us.
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Terry or *Tommy*?
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Yes - All eligible underclassmen have until 11:59pm on January 15th to make a decision on whether to come back to school or enter for the the NFL draft.
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You must have been born in 2009 then.



Its tied at 7 a piece starting in 2000. Clemson had it 7-2 until 2009. If you go back to 1990, it's Clemson hands down. Just saying that it isn't one sided in Carolin's favor in your lifetime. Since 09', yes.

Clemson has never won 5 in a row, all by double digits, in my lifetime.

I was born in 1983.

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terry bowden owned sc..u are young or forgetful..he may not have won 5 in a row but he owned us.

Well, we're talking about Clemson, not Auburn.

Oh, did you mean TOMMY Bowden?

Well, as I just responded in my previous post- he never beat us 5 in a row by double digits.

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