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Old 01-14-2014, 05:37 PM   #81
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You really need to re-read that article, and you might drop some of that unwarranted bitterness.
Some people are determined to find something to hate on...

If someone was to hire Steve Spurrier away, we'd find people coming out the woodwork spewing hate towards the HBC. I think we still have a few that would rather have Mike Leach right now.
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Some people are determined to find something to hate on...

If someone was to hire Steve Spurrier away, we'd find people coming out the woodwork spewing hate towards the HBC. I think we still have a few that would rather have Mike Leach right now.
Yeah, but when looking at it that way, you have to think in reality's terms. HBC isn't going anywhere, and this is his last coaching job. We all know that. Also, I have never understood why anyone wanted Mike Leach in the first place.
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I pay $165 a YEAR at my level. Am I missing something? Is $13.75 a month too much for people making less than $100K a year? If you want to compete with UF, UGA, Alabama, etc, you can't have half the revenue from ticket sales, but I have learned you can't tell that to people who were paying $50/year and getting 8 tickets in West Lower for face. If the team is so important to people, then why can't the people giving the most $$$ get the best tickets? The YES plan told everyone what their tickets were worth, and if they didn't want to pay what other would, and DID, they could move to other areas of the stadium.


For basketball - Marshall wanted way too much money. Simple as that. That is the reason he wasn't even considered when Martin was hired. There is no guarantee that we would be a yearly tournament team under him either. I agree he is a great coach, but USC is a very challenging job for MBB.
I'd settle for once every 3-5 years at this rate.
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I'd settle for once every 3-5 years at this rate.
Me too, but to be fair we have not won a tournament game in 40 YEARS. Can't really place all the blame on the last 2 coaches.
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Heard that Marshall would never ever be hired here...from his reputation at Winthrop.
Yeah...that reputation got him all the way to a Final Four, and another shot this year. If this is true, then we will have a crappy basketball program forever. I think Hyman personally had a problem with Marshall, which is why I'm glad he is gone.
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Hyman did some good things that needed to be done but, I didn't agree with his attitude or tactics. Thank God the YES plan worked out. We sure needed that money to keep up with the rest of the SEC. I'm disappointed that anyone thinks he steered USC through an NCAA investigation as if he were the knight riding to the rescue. Although he did a very good job managing and cooperating with the NCAA investigators, the violations were his and his staff's direct responsibility. Had he done a better job managing his staff there would have been no violations except maybe for the Wes Saunders mess.
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Yeah...that reputation got him all the way to a Final Four, and another shot this year. If this is true, then we will have a crappy basketball program forever. I think Hyman personally had a problem with Marshall, which is why I'm glad he is gone.
The Marshall issues stemmed not with Hyman but some very influential members of the BOT.
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Yeah...that reputation got him all the way to a Final Four, and another shot this year. If this is true, then we will have a crappy basketball program forever. I think Hyman personally had a problem with Marshall, which is why I'm glad he is gone.
You really think we would have made the Final Four if Marshall was our coach?
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I never said Hyman's decisions on the YES program, parking, ticket prices and Gamecock Club dues were wrong or not appropriate to get us to the next level. I suppose if you consider them in the context of the community, they can be justified. I only pointed out he was the type of AD that was able to make them, and apparently relished the opportunity perhaps. I was actually complimenting Hyman in a back handed, authentic kind of way.

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I could not prove it, but suspect and have the opinion that Hyman may be behind this "reputation" allegation about Marshall. It does insulate Hyman to a degree from the poor decision not to seek to hire the more popular choice. He is exactly that good of a politician.
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You really think we would have made the Final Four if Marshall was our coach?
No, but he is a damn great coach who has had success everywhere he has gone. He has also gone on record in saying he is a USC football fan on numerous occasions. If we would have gotten rid of Odom a year earlier like we should have(warchest), he would be our head coach right now. I guarantee you our program would be in much better shape, and we would have an NCAA tournament win.
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I could not prove it, but suspect and have the opinion that Hyman may be behind this "reputation" allegation about Marshall. It does insulate Hyman to a degree from the poor decision not to seek to hire the more popular choice. He is exactly that good of a politician.[/quote]


I understand you don't like Hyman but he was not the source of any reputation allegation about Marshall. It went higher up than Hyman. Sorry if that doesn't fit your theory.
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I understand Hyman was also behind the Kennedy assassination, he once ran Area 51 and is solely responsible for Global Warming. He's an evil mastermind that even Chairface Chippendale is scared of.
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I understand Hyman was also behind the Kennedy assassination, he once ran Area 51 and is solely responsible for Global Warming. He's an evil mastermind that even Chairface Chippendale is scared of.
Hey, he approved Carolina Girls before the fourth quarter. That monster is capable of anything!
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I understand you don't like Hyman but he was not the source of any reputation allegation about Marshall. It went higher up than Hyman. Sorry if that doesn't fit your theory.
So your saying one of the BOD did Hyman a favor in some way and Hyman was not involved in it at all in any way whatsoever. Why do you discount the probability Hyman was involved? Neither of us really know anything. I don't believe you know enough about it to say one way or the other.
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Also, I have never understood why anyone wanted Mike Leach in the first place.
They had a fetish with the "air raid" offense and were convinced Steve Spurrier's offense was outdated.

The thing that Steve Spurrier has proven is he is much more than just an OC or offensive guy...he has found a new groove with a solid group of asst. coaches and has a new comfort zone with recruiting and befriending those players and their families. I'm convinced he'll be lifelong friends with all of our players, including those that have moved on to the NFL.
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So your saying one of the BOD did Hyman a favor in some way and Hyman was not involved in it at all in any way whatsoever. Why do you discount the probability Hyman was involved? Neither of us really know anything. I don't believe you know enough about it to say one way or the other.

Actually I do. It is not speculation.
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My little comment about coaching. Right, because apparently coaching has no bar on anything that happens on the field.
I enjoy facilities as much as the next guy, but facilities don't win games, players and coaches do. Enjoy your fun fact of the day.
Damn, I bet all these schools spending hundreds of millions of dollars on facilities are kicking themselves in the azz. Wonder why Tanner wanted a new ball park? I've heard SOS repeatedly say the facilitity upgrades have made a huge difference in the type athletes he & his staff have been able to attract. Here's a hint, a fancy new baseball stadium, a student/athlete academic center, top of the line locker rooms, etc help attract better athletes who in turn give the school a better chance at success. Clemson had a student/athlete academic center for 20 yrs before we finally built one.

BTW don't ever look up our won/loss football record under the McGee era as it might possibly make you puke your lunch.

I'm thankful for what Hyman did here & maybe it was time for him to go. But he was definitely what we needed at USC at that time. Ray Tanner's timing couldn't be more perfect. He gets the benefit of the hard decisions made prior to his tenure without pissing the fans off. The perfect guy to smooth over what had to be done & move the ball forward. A win/win
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Hyman did lots of good things, but he is to blame why we are piss-poor in basketball.. He had 2 chances to get Marshall, and he didn't even consider him. Wichita State is currently 18-0 and #5 in the nation.
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Hyman did lots of good things, but he is to blame why we are piss-poor in basketball.. He had 2 chances to get Marshall, and he didn't even consider him. Wichita State is currently 18-0 and #5 in the nation.
Ding...Ding...Ding...we have a winner! This is the huge black mark on Hyman's time here in Columbia. Can't believe he gave that warchest bull-dung about Odom. Then he went with the cheap hire of Horn, which could set our basketball program back a decade.
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Actually I do. It is not speculation.
So if one of the BOD privately came to Hyman and expressed his reservation about hiring Marshall, you consider it impossible that Hyman would have put that BOD's interests above the Universities in his decision making, and that Hyman kept it private even from you as requested.

Again, the point is you really do not know all the factors that went into Hyman's incredibly bad decision to ignore the chance to hire Marshall.
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