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Old 01-15-2014, 06:56 PM   #13961
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I would think with Caldwell, J Thomas(juco), and D Sawyer we r done at DE since we r in on some great DEs in 2015
We will definitely still take Wideman.
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Good get for us. If nothing else he adds depth at DE, and hopefully he can come in and have an immediate impact.
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So for a review, he is a 4 star, 90 composite rated #1 WDE Juco prospect in the country?
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Precisely why I said "right now." As I said I like Griffin a lot but I don't know how he will progress & neither do you. Dukes had 14 tackles last year, Jarrette had 51 (yeah I know acc). He wore our center out & if the injury was the major issue we had Stadnick standing right there on the sideline who to the best of my knowledge never played.
I would bet a large amount of money right now that Jarrette will get drafted before anyone on our DL. Would you bet the opposite?
They don't have much I like but he is the exception & if he's not elite then we certainly don't have anyone elite on the DL, at least to this point.
Yes I would take that bet that he will NOT be drafted higher than all those guys. Surratt and Griffin will test better and go higher. I respect your opinion and agree that Grady is a fine player but certainly the quality of competition as you stated plays a HUGE factor in those numbers.
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So that is the the #1 (JUCO) WDE, #3 (JUCO) DT, and the #5 (JUCO) SDE we are adding. Great job coaches!
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We will definitely still take Wideman.
Not sure if we're getting Wideman, he has yet to decommit. I guess this weekend will tell us a lot. But taking Caldwell gives us Sawyer, Thomas and Caldwell as solid commits and I am not sure if we are ready to do 4 DE's this class with plans to take Key and Blackshear next year.
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So for a review, he is a 4 star, 90 composite rated #1 WDE Juco prospect in the country?
You left out 6'5" 255 lbs....

2 years to play 2.
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Well now GCC has an article saying he shouldn't be considered a commitment yet. Anyone have a summary?
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Not sure if we're getting Wideman, he has yet to decommit. I guess this weekend will tell us a lot. But taking Caldwell gives us Sawyer, Thomas and Caldwell as solid commits and I am not sure if we are ready to do 4 DE's this class with plans to take Key and Blackshear next year.
I guess I should have said Wideman if he wants to flip tho Wideman long term could grow into a DT. Also chances are high not all of those guys Thomas, Wideman, Sawyer, and Caldwell will qualify.
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Well now GCC has an article saying he shouldn't be considered a commitment yet. Anyone have a summary?
Just says that CC has talked to Caldwell and said he committed to USC. Clark says while he has verbally committed, USC is still looking in to some things but his commitment should not be considered official yet.
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Yes I would take that bet that he will NOT be drafted higher than all those guys. Surratt and Griffin will test better and go higher. I respect your opinion and agree that Grady is a fine player but certainly the quality of competition as you stated plays a HUGE factor in those numbers.
Griffin will not be draft eligible next year. Surratt could help himself with a big year & I hope he does. Right now the projections I've seen have Jarrette going higher that JT. You disagree with that & that's fine. We'll see & I sincerely hope you're right for a number of reasons. Right now I'll go with the pro's & hope things change.
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we would not turn down Wideman!!!
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So that is the the #1 (JUCO) WDE, #3 (JUCO) DT, and the #5 (JUCO) SDE we are adding. Great job coaches!
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic...
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we would not turn down Wideman!!!
You got that right.

I think it's quite possible they feel less than confident about the academic situation of some other guys & about landing Scott.
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Lol that's not sarcasm
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So I guess taking Caldwell's commitment is contingent on other factors playing out: Wideman committing to USC this weekend perhaps? If he goes away from the recruiting weekend still committed to FSU and considering his options, perhaps USC may just say it's over and turn to Caldwell? Or perhaps another commitment is having grade issues (such as Sawyer), and they are waiting to see more about his grades??
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The issues you speak of centered mostly around our young LBs, not our DL....how can we talk about our returning DL not being All-SEC caliber (we don't know that yet) - I guess referring to Quarles who left - then turn around and say our DL didn't do a good enough job last season stopping interior runs? Quarles was a part of that DL last season. So I guess what would it matter then if we HAD All-SEC caliber DL, if they still can't get the job done?? Totally contradictory.
Did you watch the left side of our DL this year?

The difference between this year and last year was like comparing night and day.

There was a HUGE drop off when Jerideau left. Big Byron either plugged the hole or pushed the OLineman backwards. Our LDT (take your pick) this year was routinely pushed around.
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Precisely why I said "right now." As I said I like Griffin a lot but I don't know how he will progress & neither do you. Dukes had 14 tackles last year, Jarrette had 51 (yeah I know acc). He wore our center out & if the injury was the major issue we had Stadnick standing right there on the sideline who to the best of my knowledge never played.
I would bet a large amount of money right now that Jarrette will get drafted before anyone on our DL. Would you bet the opposite?
They don't have much I like but he is the exception & if he's not elite then we certainly don't have anyone elite on the DL, at least to this point.
I don't think Clemson's DL are elite talent-wise. I do think they are well coached. They know how to slip through the gaps in the OL. But they weren't more physical than our OL. We just didn't do a good job of staying in front of them.
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So I guess taking Caldwell's commitment is contingent on other factors playing out: Wideman committing to USC this weekend perhaps? If he goes away from the recruiting weekend still committed to FSU and considering his options, perhaps USC may just say it's over and turn to Caldwell? Or perhaps another commitment is having grade issues (such as Sawyer), and they are waiting to see more about his grades??
Caldwell wants to play here and we wanted him out of high school. If the commit is taken by the admissions office it won't be contingent on other peoples decisions. He is the number 1 Juco WDE.
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