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Old 01-15-2014, 11:38 PM   #281
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You guys crack me up. I bet a few weeks ago you same people were clowning on the kid about being delusional for thinking he could get drafted.

Every decision ever made by any one in any way associated with Clemson was the worst decision ever made, yeah?
I'd love to see a post from a few weeks ago where people were clowning him about being delusional. I'll be waiting.
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You guys crack me up. I bet a few weeks ago you same people were clowning on the kid about being delusional for thinking he could get drafted.

Every decision ever made by any one in any way associated with Clemson was the worst decision ever made, yeah?
Who in the hell ever said anything about him not being drafted? That is what kills me about Clemson fans, you are completely unable to admit when someone on your team does something so clearly stupid. As far as juniors coming back to school this is clearly as baffling a decision as I have ever seen. He is undersized and will be lucky to even match the season he had last year and is risking an injury. These players are going to stop listening to Dabo's sale pitch one day. Dabo is a scumbag used car salesman.
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Old 01-16-2014, 12:02 AM   #283
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He was supposed to go in the 1st round wasn't he? Is Dabo holding a family member hostage?
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Old 01-16-2014, 12:05 AM   #284
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Wow... Dabo really can sell ice to an eskimo.
Jarrett and Crawford already were coming back before the Orange Bowl and Anthony decided not long after.

What is funny is some of you seem so concerned over lost money and injury risk then maybe you should have told Clowney to not play last year, go and train for the combine and sign a multimillion dollar endorsement deal while waiting and not risking injury.

Ever thought that maybe Vic wanted to play one more year in college? There have been a few college players that have done it before believe it or not. I understand that Ellington is told he will be a 3-4 rounder and he is gone. That does suck.
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Clem$on mu$t have opened the checkbook$ to get Bea$ley to $tay another $ea$on in$tead of going pro.
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Jarrett and Crawford already were coming back before the Orange Bowl and Anthony decided not long after.

What is funny is some of you seem so concerned over lost money and injury risk then maybe you should have told Clowney to not play last year, go and train for the combine and sign a multimillion dollar endorsement deal while waiting and not risking injury.

Ever thought that maybe Vic wanted to play one more year in college? There have been a few college players that have done it before believe it or not. I understand that Ellington is told he will be a 3-4 rounder and he is gone. That does suck.
Wow. Not even remotely comparable. Why can't Clemson fans admit Dabo has a history of looking out for himself/his job and not the best for the player?
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Wow. Not even remotely comparable. Why can't Clemson fans admit Dabo has a history of looking out for himself/his job and not the best for the player?
because he has successfully used his salesman tactics on the fans as well as his players. They believe without any doubt that his word is gold. He tells them they are elite...they believe it. He tells players they were dumb for leaving and says they aren't ready for the nfl yet...they get drafted 1st round and win rookie awards. He tells players they are better than half the nfl and staying can't hurt their stock...they get drafted in another sport completely. He tells fans he doesn't spend any time thinking about USC...they believe it despite numerous barbs with spurrier and his staged rant. He tells them they are more godly than other schools and even stages baptisms...they believe it as genuine. He loses to USC every year but always points to the past or future success to comfort the fact they are 2nd in their own state in the present...they believe it. It's sad really but most USC fans love it because as long as he is there we will continue to dominate clemson.
P.S.-I really don't think this is that bad of a move for beasley. Sure he is taking a few million dollar risk but he is undersized and maybe another year can help him gain some weight and better project as a DE if that's what he wants to be in the nfl. Some guys aren't all about the money and obviously his family/advisors decided he would be better off staying and getting a degree. Good for him.
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Jarrett and Crawford already were coming back before the Orange Bowl and Anthony decided not long after.

What is funny is some of you seem so concerned over lost money and injury risk then maybe you should have told Clowney to not play last year, go and train for the combine and sign a multimillion dollar endorsement deal while waiting and not risking injury.

Ever thought that maybe Vic wanted to play one more year in college? There have been a few college players that have done it before believe it or not. I understand that Ellington is told he will be a 3-4 rounder and he is gone. That does suck.
ehh...big difference in taking a year off and leaving for the NFL a year early IMO. besides that, if clowney would have gotten hurt this year (JR season) he would have next year to come back and move back up in the ranks, a senior does not have that chance...IMO Beasley is leaving money on the table by staying, he had a monster year this year, and is undersized for the position he plays, he should cash in as he very likely wont have the stats (which make up for the size this year) next year. either way I wish the young man the best, except for that one game next year
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Wow. Not even remotely comparable. Why can't Clemson fans admit Dabo has a history of looking out for himself/his job and not the best for the player?
Easy, they are Clemson fans. Dabo is a god to them
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Nobody knows, but my guess is that Vic Beasley got his evaluation back from the league & it didn't look too good.

BTW to those who think he will benefit from another year.... don't you think every single ACC team will double team/chop block/otherwise disrupt Beasley like the SEC guys did with JD?
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BTW to those who think he will benefit from another year.... don't you think every single ACC team will double team/chop block/otherwise disrupt Beasley like the SEC guys did with JD?[/quote]



Maybe, but OH ST knew he was good and had a month to prepare; and he still had a good game.
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Maybe, but OH ST knew he was good and had a month to prepare; and he still had a good game.
They also figured he wasn't as disruptive as advertised. Now every team on the schedule will have all off-season to scheme and plan for his game. Use his speed against him. Chip him,cut him. Devote 2 guys to him the whole play, every play. And when they don't. Quick play's away from him so he is not in it. We'll see how his motor is and how durable he is when people go for his legs every play. The we'll be able to see how good of a DE he is or if he's just a pure pass rusher.

Obviously he's a good player. If he wasn't then he wouldn't jump out on film like he does. What I'm not buying is that he's first round good. Maybe next year.
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Yep! Maybe next year!! That has a lot of meaning for most of Clemson nation!
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I do not know him personally, but maybe he wants a degree for life after football. As long as he does not get injured, he should not drop in the draft; especially since he will most likely be converted to LB there. He is good but he is only one man, the other 10 need do their job too.
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What...AN...IDIOT!!!

He had the chance to cash in and make a nice payday, get a three year contract, and then earn him an even nicer payday.

What does Vic Beasley gain by coming back to Clemson? Nothing.

He may be a clemson player, but he is also a young man that had the chance to make life-changing money...and that snake-oil salesman Dabo may have just cost him millions.

I truly hope Vic Beasley stays healthy next season...because if he gets hurt and drops in the draft (or goes undrafted, or God forbid can never play again) it is on Dabo.
Remind's me of the Kyle Parker deal.
Did not help Kyle at all.

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tiger fans instantly believe they will have a top 5-10 D next year!
We should be pretty nasty with probably one of the, if not the best defensive line in the country (returning all starters) and returning 7 starters on defense overall. Plus we have some big boys that played a little last year and some young talented guys that were red shirted. Carlos Watkins at DT will also be back and he got a medical red shirt from the accident he was in, in which one of his friends passed away..

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The Clemson logic on the post is astounding. The comparisons to Clowney sitting out are illogical. A 3rd year players sitting out to avoid risk of injury is unprecedented.

Getting a college degree - really? While that is an important accomplishment for anyone, he could finish his degree at a later time.

He is "different" kind of guy - fair enough, Andrew Luck was too and he stuck around and he avoided injury and went first. But, different position, different financial position, and different team. Stanford was a bonafide NC contender his senior season.

I will say this, if Dabo did NOT put a hard sell on kid and VB just wants to stick around another year at CU, fine. His life, his risk, his potential NFL contract. But, if Dabo put on a hard sell and changed his mind and got him to come back, that is shameful. He is projected by all credible draft evaluators to be a 1st rounder. And if taters can defend that, you are an idiot with orange colored glasses on and selfish. Case closed.
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Maybe Beasley's stock dropped because he did not like to spread feces on hotel walls I think.
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We should be pretty nasty with probably one of the, if not the best defensive line in the country (returning all starters) and returning 7 starters on defense overall. Plus we have some big boys that played a little last year and some young talented guys that were red shirted. Carlos Watkins at DT will also be back and he got a medical red shirt from the accident he was in, in which one of his friends passed away..

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As we learned this year, it takes a lot more than just a good d line. Carolina had arguably the best d line in the country coming into the year and it didn't matter much until after half way through the year when the rest of the d grew up. no doubt your d line will be good again. the d line was one of the best this year too yet against teams with good offenses Clemson either got handled or had to win in a shootout. Obviously Clemson's D was much better than the past 2-3 years(not saying much considering they were some of the worst in Clemson history) and that is why fans think they are really good. In reality, Clemson had a top 25 type D that is improved but IMO still should not even be mentioned in the same category that "top 5-10" D's like bama, florida, fsu, mich st are.
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Everybody saw how Dumbo acted when he was stopped for speeding; can only imagine what he's like convincing a recruit to commit or player to stay.

Yeah Beasley loved school so much he enrolled a week late.
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