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Old 01-16-2014, 10:54 AM   #101
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Hyman propoganda. McGee certainly upgraded the facilities. He pulled the trigger and got rid of Brad Scott, who was hired by McGee's predescessor not McGee. After Scott, McGee hired Lou Holtz. He also hired Ray Tanner away from NC State. McGee upgraded the facilities, but he did not have as much money as came rolling in through loans and the SEC affiliation as Hyman. Hyman should get credit for upgrading the facilities. But that would have happened anyway IMO.

The thing I don't like about Hyman is his arrogant attitude. The first thing he did when he came in was to trash McGee and Brad Edwards. I never have liked people who think they need to trash their predescessor to make themselves look good. Now, as he has been gone for over two years, here he is trying to take credit for South Carolina's success. Arrogance. Arrogance.

He did not play one down. He did not hire one a great coach at any revenue sport. The jury is still out on Frank Martin. Let's hope at least that part of Hyman's legacy works out.

I forgot about his decision to reject Greg Marshall. I still do not understand how he chose to pass him up.

Oh yeah. It was also his incompetence that got the football team NCAA sanctions due to his misinterpretation of the NCAA rules.

Where are you getting this stuff? Quite frankly I quit reading this post after that sentence (bold) because nothing else posted was credible. Mike McGee both fired Sparky Woods & hired Brad Scott. He let Scott stay & completely run the football program so far into the ground that a HOF Coach went 0-11 following this disaster.

Did a good thing & brought in Holtz. Holtz turns things around & decides he's ready to retire. McGee talks a man who has admitted he's had enough into staying. From that point forward things went back downhill.

He made a good hire in Tanner, made a good hire in Spurrier. He made a good hire with Fogler & then totally botched it up with unrealistic expectations about where we were as a BB program.
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It's insane if you don't appreciate what Hyman did for our program. We are relevant in all sports but basketball at the moment. You can say that it was all McGee but Hyman had to give everyone the support and confidence to get us to this point. You can't fault him for hiring Horn. Horn was a hot prospect at that time. Everyone says Gregg Marshall is strange and that turned Hyman off. That's fine, he went with his gut. Every once in a while you miss the boat on a hire. He missed it and then hired another hot commodity in Frank Martin. If Frank Martin fails that won't be his fault. Every hire he has made has been based their current resume. You can never predict what they will do at their next stop.

Also, this vendetta against Garcia....COME ON! Garcia did everything to himself.

I for one am a bit nervous with Tanner at the helm. I can't thank him enough for what he has done as the baseball coach, and he will raise money, but Hyman was a CEO in the way he thought whereas Tanner doesn't have the same business experience. I hope more than anything I am wrong and that he is successful in the position, but I am admittedly nervous.
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There are some folks that never forgave Hyman for graduating from UNCCH. If those folks could just at least admit to it.
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Eh, we wouldn't be 18-0 and number 5 in the nation if we had Marshall.
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Eh, we wouldn't be 18-0 and number 5 in the nation if we had Marshall.
Exactly. For a fan base that loves to talk about the strength of a conference all of the time, why doesn't anyone mention that Marshall coaches in the Missouri Valley Conference?
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Again, the point is you really do not know all the factors that went into Hyman's incredibly bad decision to ignore the chance to hire Marshall.
Henmania seems to have somewhat of an inside scoop on what was going on.

You, on the other hand, don't.

Your pathological hate for Hyman runs pretty deep, yet you can't even keep straight who hired which coaches in the past.

So to sum it up, you hate Hyman because he didn't hire Marshall (which may have been a blessing in the long run). You hate Hyman because Garcia insisted on acting like Bluto instead of being a leader. You hate his wife (for some reason), even though she had nothing to do with Garcia acting like an idiot. And you hate Hyman because he made financial decisions to get us in the SEC arms race, pissing off some farty old geezers with an unrealistic sense of entitlement.

We're better off as a program than we were the second he stepped on campus. That's how I measure the guy. Tanner has big shoes to fill, and the best way for him to keep from screwing up is by doing exactly what he's doing...following Hyman's plan.
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Exactly. For a fan base that loves to talk about the strength of a conference all of the time, why doesn't anyone mention that Marshall coaches in the Missouri Valley Conference?
And the SEC ain't even that strong among power conferences.
Probably one of the weaker ones, but yea, that Wichita State team he inherited had a lot more talent and was on a better track than us.

Sure Horn did not help, but I don't believe be would have brought us to where Wichita is now
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All I am going to say is this, for those of you worried about Ray and will he do a good job, the man has a great deal more business sense, knowledge, and experience than y'all give him credit for.
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you have no way to know that.....what kind of admission standards to they have compared to us.
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Henmania seems to have somewhat of an inside scoop on what was going on.

You, on the other hand, don't.

Your pathological hate for Hyman runs pretty deep, yet you can't even keep straight who hired which coaches in the past.

So to sum it up, you hate Hyman because he didn't hire Marshall (which may have been a blessing in the long run). You hate Hyman because Garcia insisted on acting like Bluto instead of being a leader. You hate his wife (for some reason), even though she had nothing to do with Garcia acting like an idiot. And you hate Hyman because he made financial decisions to get us in the SEC arms race, pissing off some farty old geezers with an unrealistic sense of entitlement.

We're better off as a program than we were the second he stepped on campus. That's how I measure the guy. Tanner has big shoes to fill, and the best way for him to keep from screwing up is by doing exactly what he's doing...following Hyman's plan.
I don't hate Hyman. I just don't buy his b*llsh*t.

I also certainly do not believe he deserves much of the credit for our current football progress as he took credit for in the State article about him.

Personally, I believe most of that credit goes to our players, Spurrier, the coaching staff, and the fans. IMO, Hyman deserves no more credit than McGee. Both did an acceptable job at the helm, and both made mistakes along the way. We can agree to disagree about whose mistakes were bigger.

I have not said anything about Hyman's handling of the Garcia matter. However, he did botch that from a public relations standpoint imo.
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So to sum it up,

1. you hate Hyman because he didn't hire Marshall (which may have been a blessing in the long run).

2. You hate Hyman because Garcia insisted on acting like Bluto instead of being a leader.

3. You hate his wife (for some reason), even though she had nothing to do with Garcia acting like an idiot.

4. And you hate Hyman because he made financial decisions to get us in the SEC arms race, pissing off some farty old geezers with an unrealistic sense of entitlement.
This...and it goes for 90% of those who have decided to join the www.I_Hate_Eric_Hyman.com bandwagon. This is Clembarrasing....
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I don't hate Hyman. I just don't buy his b*llsh*t.

I also certainly do not believe he deserves much of the credit for our current football progress as he took credit for in the State article about him.

Personally, I believe most of that credit goes to our players, Spurrier, the coaching staff, and the fans. IMO, Hyman deserves no more credit than McGee. Both did an acceptable job at the helm, and both made mistakes along the way. We can agree to disagree about whose mistakes were bigger.

I have not said anything about Hyman's handling of the Garcia matter. However, he did botch that from a public relations standpoint imo.

Buy his b*llsh*t?
That's pretty damn funny considering you posted that McGee didn't hire Scott & only cleaned up somebody else's mess. So either you're the one b*llsh*ting or you're just grossly misinformed.
Which is it?
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Hyman used his business acumen to seize the opportunities presented to increase revenue. However, he did not create these opportunities. Spurrier should receive credit for that. Eric Hyman was merely in the right place at the right time. He should be credited with doing his job well during his tenure, but to say he "saved SC and made it great" is a gross overstatement. Steve Spurrier deserves that credit.
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If you can't see the difference in our athletics programs before Hyman v after Hyman, then I don't know what I can say to you to open your eyes...
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And the SEC ain't even that strong among power conferences.
Probably one of the weaker ones, but yea, that Wichita State team he inherited had a lot more talent and was on a better track than us.

Sure Horn did not help, but I don't believe be would have brought us to where Wichita is now

Not gonna get into the whole Marshall thing but the statement that he inherited a talented team is simply untrue. When he got there they lost something like their top 5-6 players and his best recruit died before getting on campus. He had a terrible team his first year and built them up from there. I think anyone that doesn't believe he would have done a better job than Horn is kidding themselves or in denial...There is absolutely no way he would have let our program turn into a dumpster fire like Horn did.
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Hyman used his business acumen to seize the opportunities presented to increase revenue. However, he did not create these opportunities. Spurrier should receive credit for that. Eric Hyman was merely in the right place at the right time. He should be credited with doing his job well during his tenure, but to say he "saved SC and made it great" is a gross overstatement. Steve Spurrier deserves that credit.
This is a very good point. No way EH is able to raise that kind of money if we don't have SOS.
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If you can't see the difference in our athletics programs before Hyman v after Hyman, then I don't know what I can say to you to open your eyes...
The turnaround began when we hired Holtz IMO. That was under Dr. McGee's watch.

But even if you think the timing was different, why is Hyman the one who deserves the credit and not the players, SOS, or the current coaching staff?

I admit that I made a mistake about McGee not hiring Brad Scott. At the time, it looked like a good hire. He did manage to lead us to the first bowl win in history. In hindsight, BS lacked the ability to be a head coach.

However, Dr. McGee more than made up for that mistake by hiring Lou Holtz and then SOS. Remind me again what Hyman did regarding the Gamecock coaching staff?
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Not gonna get into the whole Marshall thing but the statement that he inherited a talented team is simply untrue. When he got there they lost something like their top 5-6 players and his best recruit died before getting on campus. He had a terrible team his first year and built them up from there. I think anyone that doesn't believe he would have done a better job than Horn is kidding themselves or in denial...There is absolutely no way he would have let our program turn into a dumpster fire like Horn did.
I wasn't saying he wouldn't.

I believe he definitely would have been better than Horn.
I just don't believe we would have been in the final four and currently #5 in the nation.
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Hyman used his business acumen to seize the opportunities presented to increase revenue. However, he did not create these opportunities. Spurrier should receive credit for that. Eric Hyman was merely in the right place at the right time. He should be credited with doing his job well during his tenure, but to say he "saved SC and made it great" is a gross overstatement. Steve Spurrier deserves that credit.
Certainly is a gross overstatement, problem is, Hyman didn't say that. So your beef should be with the OP. As for him not creating opportunities for more revenue, was there some law in place that kept USC near the bottom of the food chain in ticket prices, a law prohibiting what other SEC had been doing for years (seat fees, etc), before he took over?

I didn't particularly care for the man on a personal basis but he did a fantastic job here. Before he upgraded facilities & got projects on the board (Dodie, etc) even Spurrier was floundering here. Ask SOS, he's said it multiple times.

Ever wonder why HOF coach Lou Holtz was only modestly successful here? USC sent him to a gunfight with a knife. When USC brought athletes in on official visits the coaches were embarrassed to even pretend we had an academic facility. What we had was described by one coach as a "hallway".
Another coach said she would not take athletes to her office at the Roundhouse because the ceiling was partially falling it.

That's what our coaches were working with. The results many of them had are not surprising.
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