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Old 01-18-2014, 11:44 PM   #21
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Hey unlike the past few years I can watch a game and not blame the coach. Watch each play individually, they are actually running plays, whereas in the past we have been stagnant. Our offense is actually scoring in the 70's, something that rarely has happened before here, we are actually shooting in the mid to high 40% range most games! another rarity in years past. What you are seeing is freshmen mistakes multiplied by 5 or 6 because we play that many rooks. Keep packing the house people, you will be rewarded soon, be someone who can honestly say I was there when we struggled and not a bandwagoner
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I dont know a lot about the x's and 0's of basketball, but just from someone who is learning the game, this team has improved lots since last season. They're getting better. Just gotta give it time. We watched it with football, its the same process.
BTW, this team is improved, and its happening with a majority of underclassmen.
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Don't know if he's visited but the coaches visited him a few times. He has some nice schools on his list so it will be tough for the staff.
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If we could pick up that Seven kid.. man we would be set.
Maybe you could do him the courtesy of getting his name right. Seventh. Not seven.
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IF we can pick up that Seventh kid. His highlights are unreal. We need him, I hope we pursue him with everything we have, or UNC is going to take him from us.
Dozier is a big piece also. The class we have coming in is solid. We just need time to get developed. We lead for Seventh right now, but it's going to be tight until the end.
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I don't remember if he has visited or not... but the staff is currently looking at a JUCO prospect that's 7'1. It's very difficult to get a JUCO player in the SEC though.
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Dozier is a big piece also. The class we have coming in is solid. We just need time to get developed. We lead for Seventh right now, but it's going to be tight until the end.
It's thought that UNC leads for Woods
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I would just as soon he go to Clemson. When it comes to basketball, I hate no team worse than UNC.
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Raise your hand if you still turn to the game and get pissed when we lose even though you know we're gonna blow it.

I get so mad when we let games get away, I wouldn't mind if we pulled a Marcus Camby or a Derrick Rose. Can we please just pay off some recruits for ONE great year. I'm talking SEC title (tourney or SEC) and a couple of NCAA wins? I'm so damn sick of pulling for a team that chokes! And this is the only one that has been "rebuilding" for so long. I swear after Devan Downey left and Dominique Archie got hurt we've been toast. How is it that these small schools like Wichita St., Winthrop, Butler, St. Louis, etc. go to the tourney and win games and a major school in SC can't win, but yet we can field title caliber teams in football and baseball year in and year out? It just blows my mind so much.

I know Frank Martin is good. I know this, but I mean this is just so senseless that we can lose this damn close EVERY time. Be on the cusp EVERY time, but NOT THERE EVERY TIME. Don't get me wrong, I love the school, but Jesus how much can you take? The women's team turned it around (different dynamic I know), but it's like this is the major anomaly of our athletic department.
I'm just happy we are in the SEC and not that crap hole of a conference anymore. It's just a matter of time before we return to Fogler style domination of the SEC.
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I agree. If there is progress we can start signing the top players out of South Carolina again and also compete for players in Georgia. Frank has connections in NYC and Miami.
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Maybe you could do him the courtesy of getting his name right. Seventh. Not seven.
Oh, Im so sorry that I was unfamiliar with one of the most unfamiliar names I have ever seen.
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Actually his mom really wants him to stay closer to home. According to TBS, we have an edge.
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I agree. If there is progress we can start signing the top players out of South Carolina again and also compete for players in Georgia. Frank has connections in NYC and Miami.
We are already signing top players with Thornwell and Stroman.

Sure we missed on Peak, but he'll probably go to Georgetown and then miss his mommy.
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We are already signing top players with Thornwell and Stroman.

Sure we missed on Peak, but he'll probably go to Georgetown and then miss his mommy.
Yes we are and they just need to gain experience. If we can get Woods and Dozier, Frank will be on his way to the top.
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Spurrier's first 5 seasons: 35-26 (18-22 in SEC, 1-3 bowl games)
Spurrier's last 4 seasons: 42-11 (23-9 in SEC, 3-1 bowl games)

Staley's first 3 seasons: 42-48 (17-29 in SEC, no NCAA tournament appearances)
Staley's last 3 seasons: 67-20 (26-12 in SEC, 2 NCAA Tournament Appearances)

Now, can you please let Frank Martin build the program and stop expecting overnight miracles? Martin has more NCAA Tournament appearances in five years than our program has in the last 25 years. If you watch the games, there is a noticeable difference in the progress being made in our program. We are competing in games and only losing because 12 of our players are either freshmen or sophomores. We don't have the experience yet. Give it time.
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We are already signing top players with Thornwell and Stroman.

Sure we missed on Peak, but he'll probably go to Georgetown and then miss his mommy.
Stroman will be a solid replacement for Williams, though he isn't as great a shooter. He's more like Ty Johnson. We aren't losing anyone else next season either:

Johnson/Shaw/McKie
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This team is going to have a lot of room to grow together. It will look even better if we get Dozier the next year.

Also don't sleep on TeMarcus Blanton. He's a long wiry guard, who's a good athlete, covers a lot of ground and can get into the paint and finish in the half-court.
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We are already signing top players with Thornwell and Stroman.

Sure we missed on Peak, but he'll probably go to Georgetown and then miss his mommy.
Main reason Peak chose GT was because he was told by many that you can't make it to the NBA in Frank's system.
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Had no clue we were playing tonight, but I see we're down 20 with a bunch of time on the clock. Again I ask the question, why is it that these small schools can get recruits and have teams that go to the sweet 16 in basketball but we end up with nothing to show for it and we're the biggest school in South Carolina?
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Had no clue we were playing tonight, but I see we're down 20 with a bunch of time on the clock. Again I ask the question, why is it that these small schools can get recruits and have teams that go to the sweet 16 in basketball but we end up with nothing to show for it and we're the biggest school in South Carolina?
We have a very capable coach, but we need to give him time to build his team.
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