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Old 01-20-2014, 02:07 PM   #14181
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I get where you're coming from, I really do. Us fans (you, me) tend to get somewhat emotionally involved in these type deals & it can get frustrating. But you should care what he does because our coaches want this kid even after all the drama. That is the bottom line. They deal with this stuff on a professional basis, it's business to them & if they reacted like us they would walk away from elite talent that they might still have the opportunity to sign. I would have walked away after the latest visit cancellation. That's one of a thousand reasons why I couldn't do the job & would be sorry as hell even trying.
It is the bipolar approach fans are reacting to. We JUST HEARD his coach say "he just doesn't want to go to South Carolina" and Payne helped notify Everette Sands USC was no longer in consideration. That was, wait for it, 10 days ago. A week and a half. And now all of a sudden he "may" want to take an official visit? Someone needs to make up their minds for crying out loud. How does USC go from being a place you just really don't want to go (after all the opportunities to say yes) and out of consideration to getting an official visit in a week and a half?

I think, as other have said, its an official trip he can take and we are pretty close. Might as well cash in I guess. The other explanations make no sense. I will never be happier to have a recruitment close than this, just ridiculous.
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Playing time in yr 1 would be my guess. He'd be better off here after his freshman year but I get the feeling he's focused on playing as a true freshman & not looking far beyond that.
Be fun to come back & read this thread after Feb 5th. Whoever gets all 5 right should be crowned Cockytalk recruiting guru of the year.
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I think we still land Green too.

Lammons - USC
Green - USC
Scott - USC
Wideman - FSU
Prince - ?
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If I had to guess I'd say:

Lammons...USC
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Scott........USC
Green......UGA
Prince......MD

Can't figure Scott out. Unless there's something about us that's scaring him off he should be coming here.

I think this is most likely how these last recruits will pan out. Then I guess we'd take Caldwell and either Ford or Gladney
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I think this is most likely how these last recruits will pan out. Then I guess we'd take Caldwell and either Ford or Gladney
If some of those picking other schools are going to NSD, how are we going to get Ford or Gladney on board in that amount of time.
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Nevermind just saw a tweet from Wooody Wommack rivals 250 will be up tomorrow and the rest on Wednesday.
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My guess:

Lammons-USC
Wideman-USC
Scott-UT
Green-UGA
Prince-MD

Don't have a good feeling about Scott. If he really wanted to come here he would've committed to us at some point. Can't deny the early PT opportunity he has at UT.

Wideman is a toss up to me. I'm going to be optimistic and say USC because he's got a lot of friends in the program but the fact that he hasn't decommitted from FSU yet is a red flag. I'd be willing to bet he doesn't finish his college career at FSU.

I think we've got a great shot at Prince but several times I've seen us get close with elite 5* out of staters just to see them pick the home school. Vice versa with the 5* that came here while showing interest in other schools.

Like a lot of others on the board I've got a feeling Green ends up going to UGA. We may technically lead right now but I'm not too convinced.

This will be one of the more exciting and unpredictable conclusions to recruiting leading up to NSD we've had in a while.
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Screw it, I think we get the sweep! Call me a sunshine pumper or whatever, but I believe we land all 5.

Lammons - USC
Green - USC
Wideman - USC
Prince - USC
Scott - USC
Caldwell - USC

Yeah, I think we get Caldwell too. Go Gamecocks!
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If some of those picking other schools are going to NSD, how are we going to get Ford or Gladney on board in that amount of time.

Tell em we can now accept their commitments
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Any of the guys we have committed or in the grey area move up any in the new rivals 100? Or maybe some guys that weren't previously in it, move up onto the list?
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Default Re: 2014 - Kaylon "Poona" Ford

I will never be happier to have a recruitment close than this, just ridiculous.

That is exactly what I was talking about. The people who do this for a living are less emotionally involved in this than maybe you (me too) are. He's someone the staff, who has direct contact with the prospect, continues to pursue. They either still believe they have a fighting chance or believe he is too good a prospect to give up on. It bugs you, it bugs me too & it absolutely should not because we're not spending an ounce of effort on Poona Ford. The guys who are spending the effort think it's worth it or they would walk away.

BAW is taking an official to UGA. He is as solid to USC as they get according to his Mother. Is he just "cashing in" because it's close? Maybe, but UGA is bringing in BAW for the exact same reason USC wants to bring in Ford. You rarely sign guys who do not take an official visit. This is how it's been done for years.
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And hope they haven't faxed in their letters to other schools already?

If we land our top 5, (Green, Lammons, Prince, Scott, and Wideman) that puts us at 21 since Lamin counts back to last year. We will honor Caldwell's commitment at that point in my opinion, to make it 22.

I don't think we get all of those, however, so then I think we push for anyone else (like Gladney or Ford) as soon as any of those 5 are off the board. Some will be deciding before NSD, so I don't think it will be the same day.
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I will never be happier to have a recruitment close than this, just ridiculous.

That is exactly what I was talking about. The people who do this for a living are less emotionally involved in this than maybe you (me too) are. He's someone the staff, who has direct contact with the prospect, continues to pursue. They either still believe they have a fighting chance or believe he is too good a prospect to give up on. It bugs you, it bugs me too & it absolutely should not because we're not spending an ounce of effort on Poona Ford. The guys who are spending the effort think it's worth it or they would walk away.

BAW is taking an official to UGA. He is as solid to USC as they get according to his Mother. Is he just "cashing in" because it's close? UGA is bring in BAW for the exact same reason USC wants to bring in Ford. You rarely sign guys who do not take an official visit. This is how it's been done for years.
Well first of all, yes, BAW is just cashing in because its close, his mom said so:

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That is the definition of cashing in, and all of the UGA coaches are aware. What it also does, however, is allow BAW to network with other players and coaches that can help him later in his career if he does well and makes it to the NFL. It's about not burning bridges. And I agree with you, every now and then you get guys on campus and who knows what can happen. It certainly won't happen if they DON'T get on campus.

I never said I didn't want Ford, just saying I want this process to be done with. Between the young man himself, his parents, and his coach someone is not on the same page. What you are describing is not directly opposed to what I said. The coaches can still go after the guy but be looking forward to the time he actually makes up his mind. It's just a dramatic roller coaster, unnecessarily so. You don't go from being "out of consideration" to getting an official visit in a week and a half. If that's the case, you were either never REALLY out of consideration to begin with or you are just going for the trip. I am tired of hearing BJ Payne's explanations for how the young man thinks and feels. If he ends up coming here, great, I think he'll be a stud. If he wishes to go elsewhere, best of luck to you. Just tired of the waffling when it comes to if a school is still in the running.
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UGA most certainly doesn't care about BAW networking or anything else but getting him to turn to UGA. You already know that & so do I. That's the one & only reason they want him on campus. Period. This is a guy, who unlike Ford, is actually committed to another school. The same reason USC wants Ford to visit. Getting them on campus is job 1 at this point.

As far as waffling, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but colleges (including our's ) do this as a standard practice. They send out huge numbers of offers they are not prepared to accept. Steve Spurrier Jr did an interview some time back where he essentially talked about how this was handled. It's every bit as ugly on our end as it is on the other. Just the nature of the beast now days. Anyway, all good & as I said I feel your frustration especially with Payne. We'll see how it pans out.
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Supposedly UGA is well aware BAW is not flipping, they are just making in-roads on his younger brother who favors UGA
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Supposedly UGA is well aware BAW is not flipping, they are just making in-roads on his younger brother who favors UGA


You don't think UGA is interested in turning the #8 OLB & top 100 player in the country who happens to be an in-state guy? If so, I think you'd be wrong.
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Adams and Sands went to HH and met with him. He may now take an OV to Columbia this weekend. I hope he is now starting to figure this whole thing out.
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Wow! Huge surprise! This really is shaping up to be the most dramatic finish in recent years!
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That says it all. Coaches ain't fans. Their feelings don't get hurt as badly as the fans because they also know the other side of the equation. The one we like to ignore or don't know exist. They have much better prospective than say...me.
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this isn't a good year for us in the top 100..we have 1, Clemson 3, and a&m has 5..
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