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Old 01-19-2014, 08:09 PM   #101
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Default Re: ***2014 Carolina Panthers offseason/draft/season thread***

My updated mock drafts.


IF we keep Hardy:

Round 1: Antonio Richardson, OT, Tennessee

Round 2: Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt

Round 3: Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma

Round 4: Dominique Easley, DT, Florida

Round 5: Hakeem Smith, SS, Louisville

Round 6: Tevin Reese, WR, Baylor

Round 7: Denicos Allen, OLB, Michigan St






IF we trade Hardy:

Round 1: Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida St

Round 2: Michael Sam, DE, Missouri

Round 3: Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood

Round 4: James Hurst, OT, North Carolina

Round 5: Hakeem Smith, SS, Louisville

Round 6: Tevin Reese, WR, Baylor

Round 7: Denicos Allen, OLB, Michigan St




Possible UDFA:

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^What kind of compensation do you think we would get? He is worth a first round pick.
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^What kind of compensation do you think we would get? He is worth a first round pick.
I believe he is worth a first round pick, but I don't know what they're going to do. If we do get a first round pick, then we could double up of WR's or go WR/OT maybe get Taylor Lewan, then go after Sam or Scott Crichton in the second, if available. Just a waiting game really.
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I think OT and CB would be the way to go in the first, we need quality depth on the OL and a good replacement for Gross, I think he will back at last a couple more seasons and pick up Jordan Matthews in the 2nd. Overall like your mock it fills what we need.
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:31 PM   #105
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I think OT and OG would be the way to go in the first, we need quality depth on the OL and a good replacement for Gross, I think he will back at last a couple more seasons and pick up Jordan Matthews in the 2nd. Overall like your mock it fills what we need.
My only concern about taking a guard in the first round is we already have three guards on IR. I think Michael Sam or Scott Crichton would be too good to pass up.
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:56 PM   #106
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no way Matthews is still around when we pick in the 2nd, would love to be wrong tho....have doubt that Sam will be available there too
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I know this is controversial, but say Tajh is around in the 7th? Take a chance?

He's shown little ability to get to his third read, reacts to pressure badly, but can throw timing routes, and can squeeze it into tight windows. I still vote no - I honestly can't see myself rooting for the guy, even if he were a Panzer, but ... ?
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Carolina would be nuts to trade Hardy....even for a 1st round pick.
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Carolina would be nuts to trade Hardy....even for a 1st round pick.
It's coming down to salary cap figures, we have a lot more needs then spent it all on one player, he is going ask for CJ money and we don't have it.
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It's coming down to salary cap figures, we have a lot more needs then spent it all on one player, he is going ask for CJ money and we don't have it.
But at least we have 2 highly paid RBs who are producing. I bet J Stew might even play in 4 games next year. This team is going places!
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i wish i could send some of yall to NFL salary cap school......it would make offseason threads much more fun.....instead ill get to read about how we should cut players that would actually hurt our cap numbers instead of help
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i wish i could send some of yall to NFL salary cap school......it would make offseason threads much more fun.....instead ill get to read about how we should cut players that would actually hurt our cap numbers instead of help
I understand the cap situation, which is why I'm predicting Hardy to be gone.
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A player to keep our eyes on, Seantrel Henderson. 6'7 330 OT from Miami.


Projected to be a 4th or 5th round, pick some people are starting to predict he may go earlier than that. Would love to see the Panthers use their 2nd round pick on this guy. The guy is a monster. Could definifetly see him starting at RT and since keeping Bell would help us because him not costing much, he could provide a quality backup.
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Played that draft simulator game again and here are my results:

Your score is: 3740 (Drafting Ability: B+, Player Quality B, Future Draft Picks: N/A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 28: Marqise Lee, WR, Southern California (A-)
Round 2 Pick 28: Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State (A)
Round 3 Pick 28: Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas (A)
Round 4 Pick 28: Chris Davis, CB, Auburn (A)
Round 5 Pick 28: Charles Leno, OT, Boise State (B+)
Round 6 Pick 28: L'Damian Washington, WR, Missouri (A)
Round 7 Pick 12: Derrell Johnson, OLB, East Carolina (A-)



Not too shabby. Definitely feel this could work out. I hit all of our needs, WR, CB, OT and a solid DE if we get rid of Hardy, plus Will Sutton was still on board so I had to take him. Edwards and Cole are getting up their in age, thought it would be a good idea to get another young guy to go along with Short and Star. But really, I would rather take Quarles before Sutton.
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But at least we have 2 highly paid RBs who are producing. I bet J Stew might even play in 4 games next year. This team is going places!
This is what Gettleman was dealt thanks to the asinine GM of Marty Hurney, we can't release J-Stew without taking massive cap hits it is cheaper to keep him rather than cut him. D-Will might be a possible June cut.
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It really is too bad Gettelman is hamstrung by what Hurney did to us. Otherwise we could make some interesting player moves.
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It really is too bad Gettelman is hamstrung by what Hurney did to us. Otherwise we could make some interesting player moves.
We also have the long term to look at as well next year is a contract year for Cam and Luke the following year and we MUST lock them both up long term. I can't wait until the Hurney mess is over with and we can really see what kind of magic Gettleman can make, he already fixed the cap for this past season but we still got 2-4 years until we are free.
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Your score is: 3740 (Drafting Ability: B+, Player Quality B, Future Draft Picks: N/A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 28: Marqise Lee, WR, Southern California (A-)
Round 2 Pick 28: Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State (A)
Round 3 Pick 28: Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas (A)
Round 4 Pick 28: Chris Davis, CB, Auburn (A)
Round 5 Pick 28: Charles Leno, OT, Boise State (B+)
Round 6 Pick 28: L'Damian Washington, WR, Missouri (A)
Round 7 Pick 12: Derrell Johnson, OLB, East Carolina (A-)



Not too shabby. Definitely feel this could work out. I hit all of our needs, WR, CB, OT and a solid DE if we get rid of Hardy, plus Will Sutton was still on board so I had to take him. Edwards and Cole are getting up their in age, thought it would be a good idea to get another young guy to go along with Short and Star. But really, I would rather take Quarles before Sutton.
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It really is too bad Gettelman is hamstrung by what Hurney did to us. Otherwise we could make some interesting player moves.
very true, I was very impressed with moves the new GM made this past offseason

and even tho only getting a 7th round pick back for beason was a little low and i would like to have gotten at least a 4th......moving beason to NY was prb his best move so far b/c we were going to opt out of his contract right now anyways so a 7th is better than nothing

i really really hope and pray we keep Mitchell at safety......i almost think he is a bigger key to our D than Hardy.....Hardy def a better player but Mitchell brought a physicality to this team that we have not seen in a very long time and it spread to the rest of the team as well
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