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Old 01-22-2014, 12:57 AM   #14681
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Here is the updated 247 rankings:
BAW 102
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Jacob Park 115 (that's a long fall, I couldn't resist)
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Impressive list right there.
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The truth is, he has proven himself to be a drama queen, and the Gamecocks may be better off without this sort of theater.
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Are these their composite rankings or just their own evaluation based rankings?
BTW thanks for the list.
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I keep forgetting the sixstars comments.. obviously at some point recently we were in the lead. But then reading the comment about the official visit being his third best visit and him wanting to know he has immediate PT, I just can't see the kid here.
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composite....that was a good question. That makes the list even that much more impressive.
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If he is the best option he will play right away, if not then he will have to wait until he is the best option, whether through injury to those ahead of him on the depth chart, graduation, early exit to NFL by those ahead of him or him passing those ahead of him or some combination of these factors. Regardless of what he is told it will be the same wherever he goes.
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Very true, if we finish with that list committed That will be a great class.
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2 star recruits: Captain Munnerlyn, Ko Simpson, Justice Cunningham, and
Patric DiMarco all in NFL.

3 star recruits: Johnathan Joseph, Sydney Rice, Ryan Succop, Jasper Brinkley,
Emanuel Cook, Eric Norwood, Devin Taylor, and
D.J. Swearinger. All made it to the NFL.

So much for star ratings.

Dylan Thompson 2 star... Already beat Clemson in their place... Connor Shaw... 3 Star recruit and we know what he did.

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The truth is, he has proven himself to be a drama queen, and the Gamecocks may be better off without this sort of theater.
Some here believe that his HS coach has more to do with it than is evident. Don't know myself, things are not always as they appear. If the coaches want him then let's get him.
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I keep forgetting the sixstars comments.. obviously at some point recently we were in the lead. But then reading the comment about the official visit being his third best visit and him wanting to know he has immediate PT, I just can't see the kid here.
Just because of the visit being 3rd best? Wanting to get out of Maryland being but not being too far from home not a big deal any more because his visit was not as fun? Is he REALLY going to start from day one at Maryland? That seems a little far fetched.
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The promise to a recruit of a starting position is perhaps the dumbest thing on earth upon which to base what school to choose. Here's why, because once that player signs there isn't a coach anywhere who would honor that if there is a better player in front of him. Coaches HAVE to win & they're not in the business of losing their job because of some promise he'll deny making to an 18 yr old. So even if a coach feels a prospect would start he won't know until the guy gets on campus, see's how he competes against Div 1 players, picks up the scheme, etc. The other alternative is he's flat lying to get the commitment. In either case, he's got the guy wrapped up & there's no real good alternatives available to the player once he finds out that promise means squat. Pure fools gold.
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I don't know about Robinson, but Shell is staying at RT....that is by far his best position.
I call BS on the "by far" part. You don't have anything to really judge that by, and I could very easily say Robinson's best position is "by far" RT tackle too since that is where a lot of NFL guys are projecting him. I also could say that Shell is "by far" a better LT than than Robinson because I think his "by far" just plain better than Robinson which is why they so many are calling for him to be moved to OG. No one I think has a problem with Shell no matter what side he is on.
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2 star recruits: Captain Munnerlyn, Ko Simpson, Justice Cunningham, and
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3 star recruits: Johnathan Joseph, Sydney Rice, Ryan Succop, Jasper Brinkley,
Emanuel Cook, Eric Norwood, Devin Taylor, and
D.J. Swearinger. All made it to the NFL.

So much for star ratings.

Dylan Thompson 2 star... Already beat Clemson in their place... Mike Davis 3 Star... We know what he can do.
So tired of this stars comment...............Same argument every time. Yes, you are going to hit it big with some lower rated kids. However, there are a very limited number of 5 and 4 stars while three and two star kids are numerous and statistically bound to have many big time hits.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Shell and Robinson switched in the spring, but I hope it doesn't happen. Robinson gets beat sometimes but for the most part the current set up seems to work.
You to do you mean by "seems to work?" I doesn't always work. I think the OL was alright last year, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be a lot better. You've probably just been so used to seeing our OL looks so bad over the years that when we've finally got it to pretty good you think it's prefect the way it is. With the talent we have that OL should be much better than it is. The guy is just too slow to put him up against the other team's best pass rusher down after down. He's being set up to fail because he is in the wrong spot.
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If he is the best option he will play right away, if not then he will have to wait until he is the best option, whether through injury to those ahead of him on the depth chart, graduation, early exit to NFL by those ahead of him or him passing those ahead of him or some combination of these factors. Regardless of what he is told it will be the same wherever he goes.
Correct & it will be that way at any college he attends regardless of what the coach tells him during his recruitment. What a coach tells him now is absolutely meaningless.
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I call BS on the "by far" part. You don't have anything to really judge that by, and I could very easily say Robinson's best position is "by far" RT tackle too since that is where a lot of NFL guys are projecting him. I also could say that Shell is "by far" a better LT than than Robinson because I think his "by far" just plain better than Robinson which is why they so many are calling for him to be moved to OG. No one I think has a problem with Shell no matter what side he is on.
I don't care if you call BS or not. There are several people on here that I trust and they understand the position, and they all say RT is best for Shell. Plus his performance was much better at RT than LT.
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So tired of this stars comment...............Same argument every time. Yes, you are going to hit it big with some lower rated kids. However, there are a very limited number of 5 and 4 stars while three and two star kids are numerous and statistically bound to have many big time hits.
Many 4 and 5 Star recruits on our past rosters are nowhere to be found in the NFL.
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I was just browsing the intewebz and noticed that he has two predictions to clemson in a row on 247... Wasn't he gonna grey shirt for USC?
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There are 4 Gamecock OL in the NFL now. One came in as 2 star player, another a 3 star, and one as a 3 star JC OL transfer. The other is Travelle Wharton, a rookie starter umpteen years ago. Maryland has 3 - 2 OT and a center. Of Maryland's three, one transferred in from ND, a three star out of HS - undrafted. One was a 5 star OT (and DE), and was drafted in the 4th round. One was a three star TE in HS and was undrafted.
Our guys - Meredith, a 2 star, drafted 5th round. Jeanpierre a 3 star DT was undrafted. Watkins came in as a 3 star from JC, and went 5th round. Not recent enough to be relevant, but Wharton was an all-state player (not a 5 star) drafted in the 3rd round.
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I was just browsing the intewebz and noticed that he has two predictions to clemson in a row on 247... Wasn't he gonna grey shirt for USC?
before we offered Scarneccia he most likely was a prefferred walk-on for us
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