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Old 01-23-2014, 10:02 AM   #61
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Hope Frank does not hurt our fans or players feelings!
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Another thing that constantly had us scratching our heads though at K-state was Franks sometimes crazy substitution patterns and his "doghouse". One game a player may have a hell of a game and the next seems to be buried on the bench for no apparent reason. Who knows. Have you seen this at South Carolina?
I can't really say. Outside of Thornwell, not many of our players have had a "hell of a game."

He does play a lot of players. Mainly, I think, because we don't have 6 or 7 legit SEC players, at least not at this stage in their careers.
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I have not gone thru this thread but Martin, if it was only because of those eyes, reminds me of BobbyKnight - and Im no BobbyKnight fan at all.
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[quote=CockyInGA;4067178]When you sign on to play for a team, and are expected to give 110%, your ass belongs to the coach. Plain and simple.

You can't handle it? Can't perform? Can't be a winner? Quit. Winners have thick skin. Winners do what it takes to shut up their critics.

A coach gets paid to provide results. Just like my boss gets paid to provide results, and it's my job to make my boss look good. It's a player's job to make his coach look good. If I fail to do so, i'm out of a job. If a player can't make his coach look good, he shouldn't be on the team."

What if the coach can't make his employer look good or in fact is nothing but a constant embarrassment? His team sucks...the worst in the league where he is expected to compete. They play horrible basketball all around. And all his employer gets from him is either screaming obscenities instead of productive communication or looking so disinterested its no wonder his team looks the same and is clearly not responding positively to his constant bullshit?

Should he be the coach?
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I miss Dave Odom.
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Another thing that constantly had us scratching our heads though at K-state was Franks sometimes crazy substitution patterns and his "doghouse". One game a player may have a hell of a game and the next seems to be buried on the bench for no apparent reason. Who knows. Have you seen this at South Carolina?
Yup. For example he played Brian Steele, a walk-on, last night and did not play Justin McKie at all who had seen time in the past two games.
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I miss Dave Odom.
Unfortunately Dave Odom couldn't get his players to keep their grades up and had us in hot water before Horn took over. If there is one good thing Horn did, it was get us out of academic troubles.
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I served six years in the military. Frank Martin is a fine coach.

What are your questions?
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I don't mind calling players out, and I don't mind cussing at players, I think there is a right way to do both. Coach K and Jim Boeheim and Izzo and Dean Smith all do/did this to some degree. They have all showed compassion too. But to me, there is a difference in how they do it and how Frank does it. I can't pinpoint it exactly, but he seems to come off a little more bullyish and seems to do it way too often to have a positive effect. I think he is alienating guys a bit and needs to reign it in. It's fine to yell and scream, but he's drifting over the line lately. Our guys play pretty hard from what I've seen, maybe I'm wrong though.
As a parent, I don't think I'd like him calling my son a f@#ing bum. Other coaches will show this video clip to recruits and their parents... Not good. Specially if the young man comes from a strong Christian family. I couldn't see Marcus Lattimore wanting to play for Coach Martin if he were an equally skilled BB player instead of football player. I think this was a bad hiring decision. Are there really no good coaches with more class?
I find that hard to believe.

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I served six years in the military. Frank Martin is a fine coach.

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1. Are basketball players in the military?

2. Does your being in the military and thinking Martin is a "fine coach" have anything to do with the team's success?
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Nice comparison.

sure..Military Service = Sports

Just to add.. we aren't competing for National Titles.. hell we're barely competing for the NIT.

Frank needs to step back and re-evaluate how to handle these kids. They played scared and at this point he's embarassing himself on TV.

You can't compare Martin to Coach K or Bob Knight at this point. Not even close.
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That's really sad. My son would be playing on another team the very next day.

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If the players are overly sensitive crybabies like some of the fans then I think I have identified one of our problems.
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Unfortunately Dave Odom couldn't get his players to keep their grades up and had us in hot water before Horn took over. If there is one good thing Horn did, it was get us out of academic troubles.
Speaking of Horn. Do you guys remember what he did in games when we were getting our ass handed to us? Let me refresh your memory.
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Hmmmm... I read some threads on the Insider's Forum and I kinda like this thread's attitude better. After watching what Frank said I too question what all the fuss is about. That being said I expected a better season than this. I don't understand the losses when the team has a double digit lead.
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And this was Horn at the Presser's.
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What does this have to do with anything?
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Ive go NO problem with Coach Martin getting on the players tails in practice or during a actual game...But his mouth is very very nasty to say the least..He needs to correct that...Especially when he is in an arena that only has 2500 folks watching ....You can hear every word he says and he needs to clean it up a bit....Especially the F Bombs...
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Ive go NO problem with Coach Martin getting on the players tails in practice or during a actual game...But his mouth is very very nasty to say the least..He needs to correct that...Especially when he is in an arena that only has 2500 folks watching ....You can hear every word he says and he needs to clean it up a bit....Especially the F Bombs...
When did our fan base become so wimpy? This is a sport. This stuff happens more than most people think and to just about every team across the country. From Football, to Basketball and Baseball. Coaching isn't about hey let me be as nice to you as possible and hope not to hurt your feelings in order to gain your respect, leadership, and best effort. Coaching is about turning boys into men. Some approach it different than others, but in the end if the outcome is the same, then the job was done right.
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Wouldn't play or allow my son/daughter to play for a coach so out of control he screams expletives at them.

Sure, I know it's common...doesn't make it any less reprehensible. I miss the John Wooden mentality


Would you drop F-bombs on your child? if you would, you're a piece of garbage. If you wouldn't, why would you allow someone else to.
These aren't children.
These are men...most of whom have grown up in environments where they hear that kind of language day in, day out all day long.

Besides, he called him a bum to motivate him to play better. He called Brenton an idiot frankly because he played like an idiot that game.

I wouldn't do this to HS kids..or any level below that...but college, I'm fine with it.
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