2014 Graveyard Thread

[baitandswitch]

Originally Posted by ReadR00ster

BJ Payne has done everything he could possibly do to keep Poona Ford from coming to visit the 1. #4 team country 2. right down the road 3. who was his first major offer 4. Who is known for their dominant defensive lines. 5. Who is going to send 1 may be 2 DL in the NFL in the FIRST round. 6. Probably one will be the #1 pick in the draft.

You forgot we are Poona's "dream school"

[ReadR00ster]

Originally Posted by baitandswitch

You forgot we are Poona's "dream school"

Yeah, I did. I also was going to edit, we are short on DTs for the future and badly want the guy. So, Payne doesn't want him to visit his "Dream School" right down the road that really wants him and that has a "tremendous job of recruiting him."

[толстый Cock]

Originally Posted by AtlantaSportsGuy

I started this thread because we are low on numbers and stacked at the DL position...not sure why people are upset I started this thread which was for a good, informative debate to help people find out the differences of the two. Its not like the recruits are going to come on here and go oh shit the message board people don't want me...

[scsilas]

Funny how this thing is so turned on its head.

Used to be that in-state coaches would tell their players something along the lines of "you at least owe the in-state schools a visit."

Now this Ohio transplant, Clemson* legacy, pro-wrestling washout pressures his player to not even take an official visit to a place the player once described as his "dream school."

Coach Payne better have a tremendous reason for taking this approach. Something almost apocalyptic. And I hope he is made to specifically explain it to his principal, his school board, and even the high school league office.

[cockyness11]

Originally Posted by ReadR00ster

BJ Payne has done everything he could possibly do to keep Poona Ford from coming to visit the 1. #4 team country 2. right down the road 3. who was his first major offer 4. Who is known for their dominant defensive lines. 5. Who is going to send 1 may be 2 DL in the NFL in the FIRST round. 6. Probably one will be the #1 pick in the draft.

Oh, I do feel that ole' Payne has spun Kaylon's wheels in the other direction of USC for his own personnel reasons, but I do feel it is because he truly does feel like we are not the school that is best for his player.. Hell, if I was his coach, I wouldn't want him playing for a coach who is well known to swing a kid toward his best interest and not the players... Who was the kid that played with torn cartilage in his knee half his senior year and it ended up hurting him in the draft.. D@mn it, I can't think of his name, but that is the type of coaches they have over their in Clemson.. Our coaching staff encourages players to leave early if it benefits them, while Dabo is over on his knees begging these kids to stay all four years.. Back to the point, in Payne's weird scattered brain of his, he thinks it would hurt him by coming here...

[cockyness11]

I can say this about BJ though... Atleast he does care enough about his players to not push them to Clemson because any coach with some sense, sees that dabo is all about dabo and not about these young kids he suppost to be watching out for and leading them to better things... All thse recruits are coming into a program as kids and the job of these coaches are to make sure they leave as men...

[duff18]

There only seems to be vague reasons for Payne not wanting him here. To say USC is not the best fit is very general. Why not just be specific and give a cogent list of reasons why Poona should not attend USC? Maybe he has, would love to know what those were and why.

I'll be completely shocked if he ends up here at this point. If he really wants to be here, then there should have come a point a while ago where he tells his half wit coach to get lost and let him make a decision.

I also have to think our coaches are done.

And one last thought, is USC not the best fit for Poona or any player in Payne's mind? If it is the latter, then HHHS ought to take a hard look at that attitude and policy.

[CHSgc]

Originally Posted by cockyness11

but I do feel it is because he truly does feel like we are not the school that is best for his player

Please elaborate. Why is USC not a good fit for Ford in his mind?

[thekob]

Regarding Payne, I'm curious to know why he thinks USC isn't the right school for Ford. Can you offer any insight into his reasoning? I know that a high school football coach would hold tremendous sway over a star player, that actually makes a lot of sense since they can almost be like a third parent and unfortunately sometimes are the only source of stability. Seems like Spurrier might need to do the chacha slide with Grandma Ford to land this one! As an aside, I love it when I hear how close some of this generation is with their grandparents. Whether it be out of choice or lack of, always gives me hope for the future.

[duff18]

Originally Posted by cockyness11

I have been disgusted about a lot with how this kids recruitment has went, but I let it get to me personally because I am and will always be a Carolina fan.. I started looking through my garnet glasses at this whole process and getting aggravated because how negative it looked towards USC.. After hearing what BJ Payne had to say to me in these past few messages he has sent me on here, I see he really does have the best intentions for this young man.. Even if he doesn't feel it is here at USC.. When it is all said and done, it doesn't matter what he thinks or what I think, it is what is best for this kid and I think he knows it is him being close to his family and playing at USC.. Mark it down, I believe we get this kid

By the way, so Payne is on this board? I think that's what I am hearing from this post.

[thekob]

Originally Posted by d20636

Proximity...or James Franklin's abilities as a recruiter...

I'd say both. I can't recall...anyone know what the status is of the sanctions they're under from the Sandusky trouble? I know they got hit hard but I don't know how much is remaining. If their roster is thinned from lack of schollys that might lead to an attractive lack of depth for Prince.

[cockybreeyan]

You are hearing correctly

[thekob]

Is this him?
http://www.cockytalk.com/member.php?u=27932

Kind of far from anonymous. I'll give you 1 guess as to which thread he's viewing...

[duff18]

Originally Posted by thekob

Regarding Payne, I'm curious to know why he thinks USC isn't the right school for Ford. Can you offer any insight into his reasoning? I know that a high school football coach would hold tremendous sway over a star player, that actually makes a lot of sense since they can almost be like a third parent and unfortunately sometimes are the only source of stability. Seems like Spurrier might need to do the chacha slide with Grandma Ford to land this one! As an aside, I love it when I hear how close some of this generation is with their grandparents. Whether it be out of choice or lack of, always gives me hope for the future.

Agreed.

I have no issues with a HS coach giving advice to a player and Payne has that right. It should be objective. I'd be curious to hear the objective reasons and if those reasons are unique to Poona.

[cockyness11]

Originally Posted by duff18

By the way, so Payne is on this board? I think that's what I am hearing from this post.

Yep, he has already messaged a couple of us on here telling us to come up to his office next time we are in his area.. haha Other then him saying that non sense, he felt like he had to defend his player because we were bad mouthing the young man.. Even though I feel differently about us bad mouthing the kid, I do admire the fact that he is standing up for him.. In my eyes, I think USC is the perfect place for Kaylon, but I am not one of many who has a say so in the matter either

[Gamecock_Aholic]

Originally Posted by cockyness11

I have been disgusted about a lot with how this kids recruitment has went, but I let it get to me personally because I am and will always be a Carolina fan.. I started looking through my garnet glasses at this whole process and getting aggravated because how negative it looked towards USC.. After hearing what BJ Payne had to say to me in these past few messages he has sent me on here, I see he really does have the best intentions for this young man.. Even if he doesn't feel it is here at USC.. When it is all said and done, it doesn't matter what he thinks or what I think, it is what is best for this kid and I think he knows it is him being close to his family and playing at USC.. Mark it down, I believe we get this kid

BJ Payne is a douche bag. Anyone who tries to force something on a kid, just because he doesn't like it, is a douche... bag... What are his reasons for not wanting him to come here(which, need I remind, isn't his choice)? He's a power hungry, wait for it, douche bag. He doesn't have the kids best interest at heart or he'd let him do what he wants. He can give input or advice when asked, but he's doing way more than that. If I thought for one second my sons coach was trying to force him down a road, and not leave all options open, i'd be livid. I'll say it again, and i'll leave it at this, BJ Payne... Is indeed.. a douche bag.

[Master Bedroom]

Originally Posted by cockyness11

Yep, he has already messaged a couple of us on here telling us to come up to his office next time we are in his area.. haha Other then him saying that non sense, he felt like he had to defend his player because we were bad mouthing the young man.. Even though I feel differently about us bad mouthing the kid, I do admire the fact that he is standing up for him.. In my eyes, I think USC is the perfect place for Kaylon, but I am not one of many who has a say so in the matter either

How in the **** did this guy get to be a head coach? He sounds like a real piece of work...

[JDRAY^#]

Well at least we know Poona is not making his own decision

[EveryThingGreen]

This is just a sad situation all around. No kid should have one of the biggest decisions of his life directed by anyone with an agenda. Maybe USC is not the right fit for Poona, but at least give him the chance to make that decision himself, if you truly have his best interests at heart.

[thekob]

Originally Posted by Master Bedroom

How in the **** did this guy get to be a head coach? He sounds like a real piece of work...

Seriously...why is this guy responsible for supervising kids? Threatening people on a message board, what a tool. Now I just feel sorry for all the players in general.

Also, it seems that any badmouthing on here was the result of Payne's actions, so that's on him as well. If he doesn't realize that this is a message board and people are trying to decipher the mind of 18 yo's based on a few sentences, he's just making it more difficult and his influence on Ford makes it more vague.

I guess that's just more proof to what we already know....that recruits (and coaches) are on this forum....watching...sulking in the shadows....threatening board members....