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Old 01-23-2014, 02:26 PM   #101
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I love how everyone loves to say that the "kids" need to toughen up, then turn around and say they're grown men, they should be able to handle it.

A. It's easy to say that crap when it's someone else's kid. You'd have a different opinion if it were yours.

B. What would you do if you messed up on a project at work or a test and your boss/professor came and got in your face and called you an "f'ing bum"?

Personally, I'd introduce their teeth to their stomach, unless they were man enough to keep me from doing it. Either way, we'd find out who the real man was.

Besides, a 5 year old can drop f bombs and throw a tantrum. I'm beginning to wonder if our coach is the biggest "kid" on the whole damn team.
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Old 01-23-2014, 02:27 PM   #102
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Frank is a lot more animated and direct than your typical college coach, but let's not be naive and act like this doesn't go on at every program. It's a sensitive topic. 55-year-old coaches cursing out 18 and 19 year olds. It's what they sign up for when they go to schoool

He was wrong and went to Brenton directly and apologized. He owned up to it and likely will try to manage his emotions better.
He didn't apologize for cursing though. You don't really know what he said that he apologized for. It's between him and Williams. Someone said foul language is not acceptable in the world. Umm... yes it is. It is not always accepted everywhere, but it is accepted plenty of forums, and sports is one of those forums.
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I love how everyone loves to say that the "kids" need to toughen up, then turn around and say they're grown men, they should be able to handle it.

A. It's easy to say that crap when it's someone else's kid. You'd have a different opinion if it were yours.

B. What would you do if you messed up on a project at work or a test and your boss/professor came and got in your face and called you an "f'ing bum"?

Personally, I'd introduce their teeth to their stomach, unless they were man enough to keep me from doing it. Either way, we'd find out who the real man was.

Besides, a 5 year old can drop f bombs and throw a tantrum. I'm beginning to wonder if our coach is the biggest "kid" on the whole damn team.
Like I said, different forums have different standards and customs. You don't like cursing and yelling. Great we get you. Plenty of people don't mind it, and a lot of people out there even DO like it.
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I love how everyone loves to say that the "kids" need to toughen up, then turn around and say they're grown men, they should be able to handle it.

A. It's easy to say that crap when it's someone else's kid. You'd have a different opinion if it were yours.

B. What would you do if you messed up on a project at work or a test and your boss/professor came and got in your face and called you an "f'ing bum"?

Personally, I'd introduce their teeth to their stomach, unless they were man enough to keep me from doing it. Either way, we'd find out who the real man was.

Besides, a 5 year old can drop f bombs and throw a tantrum. I'm beginning to wonder if our coach is the biggest "kid" on the whole damn team.
I find this whole argument of "well, if it was MY KID.." or "he wouldn't talk to MY KID that way..." hilarious. It just reinforces the whole notion of wanting to coddle these "kids". "OMG, noone is going to swear at MY KID... can you imagine if that was MY KID, OMG, I'd fight the coach! I'd make him transfer!"



How about let your 18-22 year old "kid" take care of himself and make his own decisions. Give me a break.

Personally, I wish that the basketball team would hold a fan appreciation day where everyone waits in line to get 30 seconds of the "stare and scream" treatment from Frank one on one, complete with F bombs and such deep, abrasive insults as "bum".
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I find this whole argument of "well, if it was MY KID.." or "he wouldn't talk to MY KID that way..." hilarious. It just reinforces the whole notion of wanting to coddle these "kids". "OMG, noone is going to swear at MY KID... can you imagine if that was MY KID, OMG, I'd fight the coach! I'd make him transfer!"



How about let your 18-22 year old "kid" take care of himself and make his own decisions. Give me a break.

Personally, I wish that the basketball team would hold a fan appreciation day where everyone waits in line to get 30 seconds of the "stare and scream" treatment from Frank one on one, complete with F bombs and such deep, abrasive insults as "bum".
He didn't say bum. He said you're a effing bove it.
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He didn't say bum. He said you're a effing bove it.
He clearly said "I f***ing love Jimmy Buffett"

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He clearly said "I f***ing love Jimmy Buffet"
That's obvious. Buffett has a potty mouth too.
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I find this whole argument of "well, if it was MY KID.." or "he wouldn't talk to MY KID that way..." hilarious. It just reinforces the whole notion of wanting to coddle these "kids". "OMG, noone is going to swear at MY KID... can you imagine if that was MY KID, OMG, I'd fight the coach! I'd make him transfer!"



How about let your 18-22 year old "kid" take care of himself and make his own decisions. Give me a break.

Personally, I wish that the basketball team would hold a fan appreciation day where everyone waits in line to get 30 seconds of the "stare and scream" treatment from Frank one on one, complete with F bombs and such deep, abrasive insults as "bum".
First off, that clip obviously isn't the comment in question. He wasn't even talking to Brenton. Frank is who he is...for him to even apologize like he did, he knows he crossed the line. I don't have a problem with the language. Hell, I'm quite the potty mouth myself at times. It's the personal attacks when you know the kid can't really fight back that I have a problem with.

Also, I love the comparison people keep throwing out with the military and "toughening guys up". I do see a similarity. In both cases, you have grown men talking trash to 18-22 yo kids who are in a position where they can't really fight back. Go out in the real world, try that crap and see how long you last.
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Sooner or later someone is going to snap and whip his ass. Or at least call his bluff and confront him right back and try him. Then we'll see what Martin is made of. I want to see him get into a physical altercation on the sidelines with a player, and the two of them go at it unrestrained. That way all this debate shit will be for nothing and he & the player can settle it the way it's supposed to be settled. Street justice
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Sooner or later someone is going to snap and whip his ass. Or at least call his bluff and confront him right back and try him. Then we'll see what Martin is made of. I want to see him get into a physical altercation on the sidelines with a player, and the two of them go at it unrestrained. That way all this debate shit will be for nothing and he & the player can settle it the way it's supposed to be settled. Street justice
I'd like to see you stop posting.. but that's not gonna happen either.
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First off, that clip obviously isn't the comment in question. He wasn't even talking to Brenton. Frank is who he is...for him to even apologize like he did, he knows he crossed the line. I don't have a problem with the language. Hell, I'm quite the potty mouth myself at times. It's the personal attacks when you know the kid can't really fight back that I have a problem with.

Also, I love the comparison people keep throwing out with the military and "toughening guys up". I do see a similarity. In both cases, you have grown men talking trash to 18-22 yo kids who are in a position where they can't really fight back. Go out in the real world, try that crap and see how long you last.
18 year olds are legal adults not kids. Get over it.
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Anyone who is shocked and surprised about this obviously doesn't know that this is who Frank Martin is. The difference between him and a lot of other coaches out there is that he seems to genuinely care about these players and want them to not only succeed, but excel. Go look up some videos from when he was at a prior school. The players laugh about it and even do impressions. It's just who he is.

I will say also that as someone who has coached high school and at the college club level, the most frustrating thing in the world is knowing how good a player is and having them fall short of that potential.

If indeed this is too much and uncalled for, then the players always have the option to leave the team.

Someone also made a good point about how close the players and coaches are to the fans. While that makes sense, to me it goes back to not being ignorant as to who we hired to coach. Obviously if you have a choice for season tickets and plan on bringing kids, probably behind the USC bench isn't the best place. It kind of it is what it is in that regard though. Hopefully though we'll start winning so the tirades will decrease.
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Sooner or later someone is going to snap and whip his ass. Or at least call his bluff and confront him right back and try him. Then we'll see what Martin is made of. I want to see him get into a physical altercation on the sidelines with a player, and the two of them go at it unrestrained. That way all this debate shit will be for nothing and he & the player can settle it the way it's supposed to be settled. Street justice
Martin is a pretty big guy. Street justice? If a player decides to bolt and hit the coach, that shows his character already.
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Sooner or later someone is going to snap and whip his ass. Or at least call his bluff and confront him right back and try him. Then we'll see what Martin is made of. I want to see him get into a physical altercation on the sidelines with a player, and the two of them go at it unrestrained. That way all this debate shit will be for nothing and he & the player can settle it the way it's supposed to be settled. Street justice
Maybe that's what he "signed up for".
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Aww...he yelled at de poor widdle pwayers and now some of our fans have sand in dere baginas.
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He's definitely an in your face kinda coach. If you grew up playing sports you know some coaching styles work better for certain players and others work for other players. They players know what they get with him.

Majority of young athletes are of the alpha male mentality. A lot don't mind tough coaching because they respond to it.

Personally I couldn't play for Coach Martin because I never responded to the in your face yelling at me. It never made me play better. Just pissed me off.

As long as he is actually coaching and not just yelling then I have no problem with it.
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And you've been here for about a year. I must be some kind of asshole then!
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Sooner or later someone is going to snap and whip his ass. Or at least call his bluff and confront him right back and try him. Then we'll see what Martin is made of. I want to see him get into a physical altercation on the sidelines with a player, and the two of them go at it unrestrained. That way all this debate shit will be for nothing and he & the player can settle it the way it's supposed to be settled. Street justice
No player would ever do that because then their basketball career would be over. No coach in the country would give then another opportunity after getting into a fist fight with a coach. No player is that dumb.
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Aww...he yelled at de poor widdle pwayers and now some of our fans have sand in dere baginas.
I don't give a rats ass if he yells at players, throws chairs, or whatever he wants to do as long as he starts winning some games. The problem is the routine isn't working so far.
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