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Old 01-23-2014, 05:04 PM   #121
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Sooner or later someone is going to snap and whip his ass. Or at least call his bluff and confront him right back and try him. Then we'll see what Martin is made of. I want to see him get into a physical altercation on the sidelines with a player, and the two of them go at it unrestrained. That way all this debate shit will be for nothing and he & the player can settle it the way it's supposed to be settled. Street justice
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18 year olds are legal adults not kids. Get over it.

Yeah. I wonder why these coaches sit in mom and dads living rooms trying to convince them that little Johnny should play ball at USC. After all, they're 18 year old legal adults, not kids. right?

I certainly wouldn't want my kid being embarrassed on national tv, and called every nasty name in the book.
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I want to make a distinction here between a coach getting angry and lighting a fire under his players (even if it they do use F bombs) and PERSONALLY abusing a player. This may be hard for some to distinguish so I will give an example.

1) Get your ****ing head in the game!
Get your head out of your ***!!!

2) You are a ****ing bum
You are a female body part, etc.

One is the mark of a coach who is passionate but values the DIGNITY of his players as people.

Two is the mark of a coach who is passionate and personally attacks his players because they aren't good enough.
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No player would ever do that because then their basketball career would be over. No coach in the country would give then another opportunity after getting into a fist fight with a coach. No player is that dumb.
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Yeah. I wonder why these coaches sit in mom and dads living rooms trying to convince them that little Johnny should play ball at USC. After all, they're 18 year old legal adults, not kids. right?

I certainly wouldn't want my kid being embarrassed on national tv, and called every nasty name in the book.
Most aren't legal adults during the recruiting process. After all most kids commit and sign before their senior year is halfway over. When they step on campus, they are legal adults. They live on their owns. They make their own choices. They know what they are getting choosing Frank Martin. He doesn't hide who he is. You're delusional if any parent isn't aware of it either. I don't care what you think about your kid. Your kid doesn't matter. I'm talking about 18-22 year old basketball players.
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Aww...he yelled at de poor widdle pwayers and now some of our fans have sand in dere baginas.
Great post!!! Wussification needs to stop somewhere!!
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Great post!!! Wussification needs to stop somewhere!!

"Your son is a pussy bc he isn't on here waving his dick in the air" like the rest of the forum phenoms that plague this site.


Who wants to bet this post gets reported by the guy who says "wussification needs to stop somewhere"

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"Your son is a pussy bc he isn't on here waving his dick in the air" like the rest of the forum phenoms that plague this site.


Who wants to bet this post gets reported by the guy who says "wussification needs to stop somewhere"

You are wrong on both counts DA. Go ask your wife if you can have your balls back!!!
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I have my balls, the main difference is my heart is strong enough to provide enough blood to operate both balls AND brains.
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If you guys don't like him, write the BOT and ask to have him fired, pissing off fans who think Frank can and will be successful here at Carolina is stupid and not productive.


But before you get writers cramp, just know....he won't be fired...sorry
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But before you get writers cramp, just know....he won't be fired...sorry
Our problem is that we have fans that will do that because they do not understand how long it takes to build a program. They only look at the Kentucky's and the Kansas's and say oh they play freshmen and win, why aren't we winning. They don't understand basketball. They don't understand developing players. They are just a bunch of people that have to have an opinion about everything even though they don't know what they are talking about. It's ridiculous because basketball is a game that is easy to figure out from a statistical standpoint but most people don't understand what they are looking at. Like the guy in here that said Williams turns the ball over too much, then said the stats don't matter, because they didn't support what he said.
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F-bombs don't win games and it doesn't develop character. It shows a lack of it, IMHO.
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I don't think anyone thought we were hiring Mr. Rodgers as our basketball coach. We got what anyone with half a brain expected. He will ultimately be judged by whether he can turn around the program, without cheating, not much else.
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For those who don't like Frank's style, did you never follow him at Kansas State? The yelling and cursing were there the entire time. None of this is a surprise. He did it when he was losing. He did it when he was winning. This is a part of who he is.
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:58 AM   #135
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F-bombs don't win games and it doesn't develop character. It shows a lack of it, IMHO.
This is my favorite part of the argument people keep trying to make. They seem to be trying to claim that to become a man and/or even more bizarre to be a better basketball player one's coach must publically demean them and call them derogatory names while publically embarrassing himself, his team and University while absolutely sucking at getting his players to improve and to play the game of basketball on a competitive level. That this is how real men are made and how character is built. It's laughable.

Add to that this sheer nonsense that if one chooses to not behave in this manner...while sucking balls as a team...or not being afraid to address it directly as a capable and experienced grown up...it is somehow turning people into pussies...

You cannot make this shit up. !

And just an FYI...I have served in the military...as well as played sports my entire life, coached youth sports for most of the last 15 years and am raising two exceptional children...and this idea that this is how they get the best out of people is so ridiculously incorrect and false it isn't funny. No one on any level who is in charge of either leading others or raising kids or coaching a group to improve and compete has ever benefitted from calling someone in their charge a *&^%ing idiot. Never. That has never made anyone better at anything. To defend it as 'THE' way to get things done...especially when the product that is being discussed is so poor...is sheer foolishness.

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This is my favorite part of the argument people keep trying to make. They seem to be trying to claim that to become a man and/or even more bizarre to be a better basketball player one's coach must publically demean them and call them derogatory names while publically embarrassing himself, team and University while absolutely sucking at getting his players to improve and to play the game of basketball on a competitive level. That this is how real men are made and how character is built. It's laughable.

Add to that this sheer nonsense that if one choses to not behave in this manner...while sucking balls as a team...or not being afraid to address it directly as a capable and experienced grown up...is somehow turning people into pussies...

You cannot make this shit up. !

And just an FYI...I have served in the military...as well as played sports my entire life, coached youth sports for most of the last 15 years and am raising two exceptional children...and this idea that this is how they get the best out of people is so ridiculously incorrect and false it isn't funny. No one on any level who is in charge of either leading others or raising kids or coaching a group to improve and compete has ever benefitted from calling someone in their charge a *&^%ing idiot. Never. That has never made anyone better at anything. To defend it as 'THE' way to get things done...especially when the product that is being discussed is so poor...is sheer foolishness.
You're right. Frank Martin's methods have never been successful. There's only one type of coaching style that is effective and all of these "kids" respond the same to this style of coaching. Thanks.
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I think its one thing to act that way in practice, but coaches need to excercise more self control in public. If he can't control himself during a game how can he expect his players to?
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Again, why is everyone so surprised? Did you not know who he was before he arrived? I sure did. His ranting and raving was his hallmark.



Why are some people acting as if this is something new?
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...and I don't think we knew we were hiring Chis Rock as the same...
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I still contend...sit behind Duke's bench, or Louisville, or Michigan State, or nearly any bench in the country, and you will hear very close to what Martin said.
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