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Old 01-25-2014, 11:00 PM   #101
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Oh lord PLEASE let Connor Shaw be drafted ahead of Boyd. Taternet would meltdown, again.
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some tater on t-net just said he would trade cam newton for tajh boyd right now.. Is he delusional?
Wow that is just asinine
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Honestly I feel bad for Tahj. Everything I've seen, and every interview he's given portray him as a pretty nice guy. Hate to see anyone fail at their lifelong goal regardless of where they come from.

I especially hate it that he trusted his coach with decisions about his future.
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No offense, but that doesn't answer my question
Shaw and Legree played in the NFLPA game, maybe someone else did too. The rest of our Seniors weren't invited. Not sure what else to say.
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Honestly I feel bad for Tahj. Everything I've seen, and every interview he's given portray him as a pretty nice guy. Hate to see anyone fail at their lifelong goal regardless of where they come from.

I especially hate it that he trusted his coach with decisions about his future.
He took cheap shots at GA and Garcia and struck a Heisman pose in a second quarter. He's no criminal, but far from some great and humble guy some of you think he is. But we all know what opinions are like.
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No offense, but that doesn't answer my question
What the poster is trying to say is only seniors are invited to these post season NFL scouting games. Underclass men are not invited, ever, to these. I don't know if it is a firm rule but it is always followed. So by saying it's the SENIOR bowl, the poster thought it was clear that only seniors could go. Hope that eliviated the confusion and doesn't come across as a smartass response.
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What the poster is trying to say is only seniors are invited to these post season NFL scouting games. Underclass men are not invited, ever, to these. I don't know if it is a firm rule but it is always followed. So by saying it's the SENIOR bowl, the poster thought it was clear that only seniors could go. Hope that eliviated the confusion and doesn't come across as a smartass response.
I worked with the South Carolina College All-star Bowl last year, and it is a rule, that they are not allowed to play in All-Star games as underclassmen. I cant remember if its an NCAA rule, or an NFL rule, but they arent allowed.
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What the poster is trying to say is only seniors are invited to these post season NFL scouting games. Underclass men are not invited, ever, to these. I don't know if it is a firm rule but it is always followed. So by saying it's the SENIOR bowl, the poster thought it was clear that only seniors could go. Hope that eliviated the confusion and doesn't come across as a smartass response.
I am not confused as to who is eligible. We had eligible players. I was wondering why they were not there. That's all.
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I am not confused as to who is eligible. We had eligible players. I was wondering why they were not there. That's all.
Let's try a different angle, which Senior do you think SHOULD have been invited?
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I realize Dabo will not get a pass on here; but I don't think he (or even Morris) should take all the blame. TB has made some great plays, but also made some poor decisions on the field (when the decision was his). He made at least two in the OB when he had the option to run or pass and he chose to pass (both INTs). Was he trying too hard? I do think there was a reluctance to pull TB if he was having issues. Sometimes that helps a player, other times it makes them worse.
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When you teach a kid to throw screens and fades on 98% of his plays, he's going to suck at reading a defense.
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All of the other players that left were not seniors, but juniors, Clowney, Quarles and Hampton. We had two seniors that played and two were not invited.
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Let's try a different angle, which Senior do you think SHOULD have been invited?
Probably only one and he already played in the NFLPA bowl game
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Tell that to Nick Marshall.
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Will do. I'll text him right now . . .

You're trying to compare Tajh to Nick Marshall regarding quarterback PASSING stats? Good luck. Marshall almost got to 2000 yards this year - almost. Nice.

Want to show me your QB reading a defense, I'm happy to see it. If you think Marshall will be a starter in the NFL at any point in his career, you are beyond stupid.
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Also, Barner, I'm not talking about reading a defensive end on a read play. That's not a passing play (not sure if you actually understand football, judging by your last post).
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Will do. I'll text him right now . . .

You're trying to compare Tajh to Nick Marshall regarding quarterback PASSING stats? Good luck. Marshall almost got to 2000 yards this year - almost. Nice.

Want to show me your QB reading a defense, I'm happy to see it. If you think Marshall will be a starter in the NFL at any point in his career, you are beyond stupid.
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I wasn't saying he'd be a NFL QB. But he can read a defense. Hell look at Cam, a lot of his passes were screens, how'd he turn out?
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Honestly I feel bad for Tahj. Everything I've seen, and every interview he's given portray him as a pretty nice guy. Hate to see anyone fail at their lifelong goal regardless of where they come from.

I especially hate it that he trusted his coach with decisions about his future.
What Boyd is doing, is painting a picture of the Clemson program. Unfortunately
other recruits only see his stats, and hear the praise that follows them from
the "experts" who's opinion is derived from stats only. Clemson recruits
HEAVYILY, the skill players that can put up big numbers against the weak
defenses they play in the ACC. They bring in (basically) a High School
coach to run the offense, and he sets up a top tier High School offense
with high speed, division 1A talent with little coaching to get players ready
for "The Next Level" Funny how three pro scouts have all said almost word
for word the same thing about Boyd's game. ..."He has trouble throwing
to specific spots" ..."He waits until his receiver comes open before throwing
the football" ...AND, he locks onto one specific target and forces the ball
in traffic rather than go through progressions and finding the best option".
They all say he runs well because of his body style, and as a result, puts
his body at risk. "He has trouble throwing on the run" ...And as we all
know, "He has trouble thinking things through in pressure situations"

This is a result of being able to stand in the pocket the majority of the
time against teams with average (at best) D/lines, and throw to guys
Like Watkins, Hopkins, Bryant ect... Ain't it funny how others can see what
is in plain site, yet the Clemson fans, coaches and most of their players
can't see it. ... They talk about not understanding why they can't play
without turnovers in BIG GAMES, and why Boyd seems to play (for the
most part) Scared, in those big games...... It's because he plays in those
games like he's coached to play. Rely on the Speed and quickness of the
Skill players ONLY. Get the ball in their hands and let them out run people.

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When teams account for it, and make the QB have to go elsewhere or
change his game, they are a 180 degree different team. Their QBs have
to rely on something other than fast WRs or RBs, and they are lost.

WATCH AND SEE:
Deshaun Watson is the new Heisman Trophy, all world, National Title hope. They
have already crowned him "The Next Jameis Winston". Like Boyd was the
Next "Tim Tebow", Like Whitehurst was the next "John Elway" ect.....
They were supposed to win an ACC and NC with Will Korn, but couldn't
even get him in the starting lineup before he left the program. Watson
will suffer the same fate as Boyd, as long as Chad Morris is the OC. He'll
put up some lofty stats, play below par in games with strong defenses and/or
Ranked opponents and when he has to prove he's ready for "Prime Time"
he'll come up as Average AT BEST. ....... It's called being a system QB,
and the Clemson System under Chad Morris is upper level High School
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I wasn't saying he'd be a NFL QB. But he can read a defense. Hell look at Cam, a lot of his passes were screens, how'd he turn out?
If it wasn't for Cam's size, he wouldn't be in the league for more than 5 years. Cam won't ever amount to much, may get some inflated stats, so your not really helping the argument. If you doubt it, go look at what he did in the playoffs.

Nick Marshall will never play QB seriously in the NFL. If Marshall was half a QB they'd have scored on the 3rd play of the national title game.
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