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Old 01-23-2014, 08:28 AM   #281
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We wont be running those read option plays nearly as much now. Plus it will be hard to find someone who can run them as well as Shaw. It fit his skillset to a T.

Mitch has the strongest arm on the team. No questions asked. This kids arm is NFL ready now. Its on a different level than weve had here since Ellis. Mitch's skillset has him more as a pocket passing QB. But hes said if hes called to run he will.

Once your at this level you arent going to gain arm strength. Because realy, its not how strong you are. You get "arm strength" from your complete throwing motion. You get a lot of velocity from your feet and lower body. That then goes through your shoulder and finally your arm and wrist. All of that at the right combination will give a qb elite velocity. And if hes missing any one part of it, it will cause him to lose some. Ever wonder why guys like Elway and Marino could throw so much harder than anyone else? What their foot plant into the ground. And their mid section. Watch how much force they get into it.

Mitch is similar. He does a lot of things right. Both if you notice QBs that can throw with a lot of velocity in the NFL. Were doing it in college too. Its not something you can really learn. Its how you throw as you grow up. But once your to this point its to late.
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Ellis had a cannon. Ive seen him throw many darts into the other teans hands. He had a pretty serious ankle injury. Was never the same again. Thats where you get a lot of velocity from.

So try again.

Also i didn't compare their arm strength. I said since ellis. Really havent had many strong armed QBs here. Mitchell could put some heat on it. Garcia too. But i wouldnt say they had cannons. Petty? Weak arm. Tanneyhill had a weak arm too. Just knew where to put it.

*Wasnt alive to see ellis play in person. Have many gamecock games on DVD.
Err, we have had many QBs before and since Ellis with way better arms. Ellis put up good numbers because we ran a run and shoot and he was throwing short passes to Sterling Sharpe. Sharpe was the best receiver I have ever seen play for Carolina. He was better and faster than Sammy Watkins and had the toughness of Alshon.

Ellis holds the all time school record for interceptions by a Carolina QB. That directly correlates to 1) his inability to read defense; and 2) his soft passes. Ellis's arm was decent. For comparison purposes, his arm was not as strong as Connor Shaw, who some Clempson idiots think has a weak arm. Your credibility is being destroyed by claiming Ellis has a "cannon." Maybe in your mind as a youngster it was a cannon. Take our word for it, it was not.

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Didn't Spurrier change the offense to fit Shaw's game...thought Spurrier was the "fun and gun" type...if that's the case..doesn't that change the conversation of who plays QB other than Thompson...BTW, DT has earned the right to be called the starter for next year..it's his to lose in my opine.
No. It changed marginally when he hired Elliott as the OL coach. Elliott is an expert at the zone read as he proved while coaching at Appy State. Garcia was the starter back in those days. Garcia could actually run a pretty good zone read.

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I don't understand how anyone can say that this job is Thompson's to lose like he is so much more advanced than any other QB we have. There is still a spring and summer before our first game next year.


Everyone likes to point out Connor Mitch's arm strength, and how Spurrier recruited him, and all this blah blah. And everyone likes to point out Dylan Thompson's performance against Clemson, and how Dylan Thompson has been the back up for 2 years now, and how he was promised to play this year, and blah blah blah. But people forget that Nosovitch was a PARADE All-American.

And PARADE All-American isn't a joke. Most of the top college football players in the country were PARADE All-Americans.

And I'm all for heart-warming stories, but I'd prefer to win. So you put the best QB in for the job, not necessarily always the fan favorite. I love Dylan Thompson and everything he's done for the program, but if he's not the best, then oh well. If he is the best, then great.
Because SOS said it at one of his recent press conferences. I think it was that thorn Kendall that asked . . . always trying to start a controversy and create division ... and Spurrier scoffed at the notion anyone besides Thompson was a front runner for the starting job.
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I don't think that will be the case. We all have a habit of seeing what we want to see. The same people that believe one qb is better than the rest before the practice will believe the same after.
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Old 01-23-2014, 06:40 PM   #283
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Because SOS said it at one of his recent press conferences. I think it was that thorn Kendall that asked . . . always trying to start a controversy and create division ... and Spurrier scoffed at the notion anyone besides Thompson was a front runner for the starting job.
Front runner and guaranteed starter doesn't mean the same thing. I've said in many of post that I agree that Dylan is the man, right now, but there still over 200 days which include winter workouts, spring ball, and summer camp before prep-week(s) for Texas A&M.

If you think Spurrier locked down the QB position without seeing the progression of Mitch or Nosovitch then your obviously Thompson-biased in my opinion. Just go back and read my post. I've never said I was cheering for anyone - but I am cheering for whomever he starts come August 28th. It would be great for Dylan to get the starters role, but it's not guaranteed.
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I don't think that will be the case. We all have a habit of seeing what we want to see. The same people that believe one qb is better than the rest before the practice will believe the same after.
Is the Spring Game on April 12th this year? I am trying to find out so I can make sure I have the day off. I remembered Spurrier mentioning the date, but I can't seem to find the video.
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I know some people feel that one of the reasons Spurrier has been acting so tickle pink, is because he knows that he has finally got that gunslinger Qb he has been trying to get since he has been here, in Connor Mich to implement his system.. He sees that door wide open for us to sneak right in to one of those four spots at the end of the year
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The most popular guy on the team is ALWAYS the backup QB.......









....Until he has to be the STARTING QB.
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....Until he has to be the STARTING QB.
Remember when Beecher was that guy? haha Not comparing Mitch to Beecher at all, I believe Mitch has a bright future at USC, I just believe we need to not get so carried away yet.
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Remember when Beecher was that guy? haha Not comparing Mitch to Beecher at all, I believe Mitch has a bright future at USC, I just believe we need to not get so carried away yet.
Well, I was also talking about DT, since he was the backup last year.
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Dylan has been to Death Valley and won. We play again in Clemmonville so have to go with Dylan. Only hopefully he can work on his control in the off-season, he has a tendency to have the ball sail away on him.
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Best QB play in at least a decade? Try EVER, man. 24 TDs, 1 interception...another 6 TDs rushing.

If you think we've EVER had another quarterback play that well for a season, in any decade, you're mistaken.
did you notice the phrase, "at least" in my post?
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Is the Spring Game on April 12th this year? I am trying to find out so I can make sure I have the day off. I remembered Spurrier mentioning the date, but I can't seem to find the video.

Roger. April 12th

http://www.fbschedules.com/spring-fo...game-schedule/
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Does anyone think Thompson's mechanics were worse last season after working with the same qb coach Boyd worked with in the off season. Just curious... I'm not sure if we have a large enough sample size from last year to truly know.
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Unlike some years past, I think this year we will all feel pretty comfortable with whichever guys wins the QB battle in August.
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Does anyone think Thompson's mechanics were worse last season after working with the same qb coach Boyd worked with in the off season. Just curious... I'm not sure if we have a large enough sample size from last year to truly know.
i don't remember him lunging like he was throwing a superman punch before that
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Does anyone think Thompson's mechanics were worse last season after working with the same qb coach Boyd worked with in the off season. Just curious... I'm not sure if we have a large enough sample size from last year to truly know.
His mechanics have always been a little different. He has a tendency to shot put the ball sometimes which impacts his accuracy. I think it's more noticeable now because everyone is looking for him to be the man. When you're the backup people are just happy when you complete a pass. Being the starter brings a whole new set of eyes and perspectives.
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This is a Shaw type player....

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This is a Shaw type player....

Man, Garcia looked a little slimmer in that video.
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i really think thats its not even worth discussing. unless thompson just shits the bed in the spring, hes our man and given that spurriers policy is that the best qb will play really shows how much he thinks of thompson. i love it. its maddening though that we have three great qbs right now but only one of them can play. wish we could send one back in time to bridge the gap of decent qbs that came affter phil petty gaduated.
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i really think thats its not even worth discussing. unless thompson just shits the bed in the spring, hes our man and given that spurriers policy is that the best qb will play really shows how much he thinks of thompson. i love it. its maddening though that we have three great qbs right now but only one of them can play. wish we could send one back in time to bridge the gap of decent qbs that came affter phil petty gaduated.
I am just hoping we can blow out some teams this year so we get to see all three play in real game time situations.
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His mechanics have always been a little different. He has a tendency to shot put the ball sometimes which impacts his accuracy. I think it's more noticeable now because everyone is looking for him to be the man. When you're the backup people are just happy when you complete a pass. Being the starter brings a whole new set of eyes and perspectives.
I'm sure SOS will work that out of him this spring.
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