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Old 01-26-2014, 09:27 PM   #15241
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They may not have a board put together yet but many 2015 prospects already have favorites and we don't lead for any top 2015 backs. Yes, there's still plenty of time.
Bryce Love is a legacy and Karan Higdon named us leaders awhile ago before committing to USF. I don't know the details of his recruitment but I can't imagine we couldn't pull him from USF if we showed interest. Both of those guys are 4*
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With or without the boards the coaches know who's good in the areas we recruit and should at least be making contact with those guys
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Rooster, everything goes into recruiting. The facility improvements we've done have made a world of difference.....but it's an ongoing process. Winning championships matters, but to get the kids in the front door, you must have something tangible to sell. Our recruiting budget is still somewhat lacking. We're in the bottom third of the SEC. If we really want to start going after nothing but 4-5 * players, we've got to expand our territory.....but that takes money and it takes more national recognition which we're getting, but that takes time....if we keep winning 10 or more games a year and stay in the top 10 in the ranking, that national recognition will come. It's already started. We're getting the best recruits in the country to come to Columbia now that never would have happened a decade ago. We keep knocking on the door, and the 5* players like Damian Prince will start picking us.
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Rooster, everything goes into recruiting. The facility improvements we've done have made a world of difference.....but it's an ongoing process. Winning championships matters, but to get the kids in the front door, you must have something tangible to sell. Our recruiting budget is still somewhat lacking. We're in the bottom third of the SEC. If we really want to start going after nothing but 4-5 * players, we've got to expand our territory.....but that takes money and it takes more national recognition which we're getting, but that takes time....if we keep winning 10 or more games a year and stay in the top 10 in the ranking, that national recognition will come. It's already started. We're getting the best recruits in the country to come to Columbia now that never would have happened a decade ago. We keep knocking on the door, and the 5* players like Damian Prince will start picking us.
Three straight years of 11 wins and finishing in the top ten with a top five finish in the most recent season should be enough to get players to notice us, but apparently it isn't. He would still rather go to a school that stands a good chance of having its head coach replaced after 2014 as opposed to going to one whose head coach will be here until he retires, which won't be anytime soon.

Do we not have anything tangible to sell to Prince?
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Maybe we are still pushing for this guy and can get him to visit before Nsd.
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:46 PM   #15247
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Cool, I get it now. You're being selective about what to pluck out of arguments as to fuel this further. You're right, I'm sure all Florida Trophy Room tours have been canceled for the recruits bc of this years lackluster showing. You got me
This pretty much hits the nail on the head. A fat trophy room by no means guarentees contending for additional championships, doesn't save a team from slipping into mediocracy (sp?) or worse. Even the mighty Bama has followed successfull runs with somewhat ordinary periods
The trophy case is A tool that came into "play" each time they found a coach who brought a tool box worthy of it's benifitts.
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:53 PM   #15248
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Rooster, everything goes into recruiting. The facility improvements we've done have made a world of difference.....but it's an ongoing process. Winning championships matters, but to get the kids in the front door, you must have something tangible to sell. Our recruiting budget is still somewhat lacking. We're in the bottom third of the SEC. If we really want to start going after nothing but 4-5 * players, we've got to expand our territory.....but that takes money and it takes more national recognition which we're getting, but that takes time....if we keep winning 10 or more games a year and stay in the top 10 in the ranking, that national recognition will come. It's already started. We're getting the best recruits in the country to come to Columbia now that never would have happened a decade ago. We keep knocking on the door, and the 5* players like Damian Prince will start picking us.
5* players close to home maybe. Five star players from from outside our state will be tougher unless we become more than door-knockers.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:05 PM   #15249
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Three straight years of 11 wins and finishing in the top ten with a top five finish in the most recent season should be enough to get players to notice us, but apparently it isn't. He would still rather go to a school that stands a good chance of having its head coach replaced after 2014 as opposed to going to one whose head coach will be here until he retires, which won't be anytime soon.

Do we not have anything tangible to sell to Prince?
He's going to Maryland so he can play. But if he does go to Florida, they have a winning tradition that spans over decades. Five years ago, he would never have visited.....that's my point. Our class is going to be one of the best ever. We're getting noticed. Aren't we now getting the lion's share of the best players in SC. Some of you guys spend too much time looking at only the last year or two. We got to walk before we can run.
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He's going to Maryland so he can play. But if he does go to Florida, they have a winning tradition that spans over decades. Five years ago, he would never have visited.....that's my point. Our class is going to be one of the best ever. We're getting noticed. Aren't we now getting the lion's share of the best players in SC. Some of you guys spend too much time looking at only the last year or two. We got to walk before we can run.
Still a lot of uncommitted players left on the board to call this class "one of the best ever."
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Still a lot of uncommitted players left on the board to call this class "one of the best ever."
3-4....all but one have us leading or we are locks with.
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3-4....all but one have us leading or we are locks with.
Still two weeks until signing day. A lot could (and probably will) change.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:19 PM   #15253
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Still a lot of uncommitted players left on the board to call this class "one of the best ever."
Maybe some of you guys should wait 3-4 years before declaring this class a disappointment... Prince was a long shot mad its a bummer we aren't getting him but he was going to be uphill since he is an out of state guy and top 40 national player.
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3-4....all but one have us leading or we are locks with.
Who? Lammons and Green seem to be good, Wideman is 50-50... Prince is fading IMO. I just don't see us signing Wideman or Prince or anyone not named Green or Lammons. I hope I'm wrong. We could really is Scott for RB depth in 2015 and Wideman and Prince would both be huge gets, but again I just don't see is getting any of those final 3 I mentioned.
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Is Bryce Love considered a Gamecock lock because of the legacy?
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Who? Lammons and Green seem to be good, Wideman is 50-50... Prince is fading IMO. I just don't see us signing Wideman or Prince or anyone not named Green or Lammons. I hope I'm wrong. We could really is Scott for RB depth in 2015 and Wideman and Prince would both be huge gets, but again I just don't see is getting any of those final 3 I mentioned.
according to the experts, Wideman is more like 80-20.
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Idk if it's too late w. Kelly jr but he could be a plan b for prince. Hope we somehow get prince though
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Who? Lammons and Green seem to be good, Wideman is 50-50... Prince is fading IMO. I just don't see us signing Wideman or Prince or anyone not named Green or Lammons. I hope I'm wrong. We could really is Scott for RB depth in 2015 and Wideman and Prince would both be huge gets, but again I just don't see is getting any of those final 3 I mentioned.
We'll finish with Lammons and Green, and maybe Wideman.

Scott and Prince aren't happening.
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