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Old 01-27-2014, 09:19 PM   #2001
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Chubb was the perfect back for our offense. I'm guessing the staff put all their eggs into Scott because he is a fine back (not every down in our offense) that they thought they had a good chance to sign. I see a guy like Scott as a much better fit at say Auburn than USC. Hate we missed him but we would still have had to recruit another RB that fits our offense & run in between the tackles. Scott's not that guy. In the right offense Scott is dynamite.
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The bad news is that its going to be tough to land a top RB out of our normal recruiting grounds for 2015.

There isn't one in SC that has emerged yet.
NC has Bryce Love and he is a scat back.
GA has a couple, namely Taj Griffin who we are not in it with, Eric Swinney who we are not mentioned with and then a couple other.
We're not getting 1st pick out of FL and they have a couple top national kids there but after that it doesn't look that deep.

Losing Scott doesn't bother me, how we approached our RB recruiting does though.
You're saying we should never have only one recruit for a position like RB.....always have at least 2. I couldn't agree more.
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Scott thinks he'll get earlier PT? HOW? He's the THIRD RB commit for UT THIS CLASS.
Paulk is a redshirt candidate due to injury and Hurd is a different skill set. He could see the field this year a bit, and then be in line to be the change of pace back in 2015.

He likely wouldn't see the field this year w/ us, but then he'd have roughly the same opportunity here in 2k15 that he'd have at UT, schemes aside. But UT uses APB's more than we do.
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Paulk is a redshirt candidate due to injury and Hurd is a different skill set. He could see the field this year a bit, and then be in line to be the change of pace back in 2015.

He likely wouldn't see the field this year w/ us, but then he'd have roughly the same opportunity here in 2k15 that he'd have at UT, schemes aside. But UT uses APB's more than we do.
That's about how I see it. UT is a high risk/high reward situation for Scott. He could very well get on the field earlier at UT than USC. The risk is he's coming in with other backs in the same class that may very well be better than Scott. When that happens, guys graduating or leaving for the NFL won't bail you out. You're stuck behind those guys for a long while.
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So why can't we make that sell?

Scott thinks he'll get earlier PT? HOW? He's the THIRD RB commit for UT THIS CLASS. He'll be battling TWO (and maybe more) other RB's for playing time in 2015, whereas only battling one here.

So, again, why can't we make that sell that you speak of?
Because we have established RBs that have PT and not one of them is a senior. Tenn is looking for a starting RB and Scott will get a chance to compete for the starting job with Hurd. Do I think he will get the starting job? No but he will get a chance as a true freshman. We can't make that sell without lying.
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You're saying we should never have only one recruit for a position like RB.....always have at least 2. I couldn't agree more.
We recruited Chubb too. This whole narrative that we didn't was some peoples idea to help Scott commit. Chubb was too much to UGA to overcome.
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They'll regret that the next few years when they can only take 15. Taking 30+ kids is stupid.
If they get 35 players in this class, since 14 have already enrolled, 5 of them can count back. Then all they need to do is have 5 guys either gray shirt or not qualify or flip to another school. That gets them to 25.
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Paulk is a redshirt candidate due to injury and Hurd is a different skill set. He could see the field this year a bit, and then be in line to be the change of pace back in 2015.

He likely wouldn't see the field this year w/ us, but then he'd have roughly the same opportunity here in 2k15 that he'd have at UT, schemes aside. But UT uses APB's more than we do.
Oh ok, I get it now. So he would rather compete with two other backs, potentially more in 2015 at UT, than just to compete with one here? Makes total sense now.
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Shoot. Look at the Tennesse game this year. I could argue that we were 1 or two PLAYS away from getting a shot at the title game.
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Oh ok, I get it now. So he would rather compete with two other backs, potentially more in 2015 at UT, than just to compete with one here? Makes total sense now.
What confuses you, that Butch Jones can lie to a kid and he buy it?
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Because we have established RBs that have PT and not one of them is a senior. Tenn is looking for a starting RB and Scott will get a chance to compete for the starting job with Hurd. Do I think he will get the starting job? No but he will get a chance as a true freshman. We can't make that sell without lying.
They already have a starting RB. His name is Marlin Lane. Scott will also be competing with him.

I love how one post will say "he isn't an every down back so it isn't a big loss," then a few posts later someone says "he wants to compete for a starting job."

Which one is it?
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Did something happen besides us missing on a tailback (where we are returning one of the best players in the country)? We're still getting Shaq davidson, right? Did you see #4 the last three games this season?
Lost out on Prince and not getting Caldwell either
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Lost out on Prince and not getting Caldwell either
Caldwell is an SEC issue. Not much we can do about an Illinois person screwing up. Prince isn't over but unlikely, but we also never led.
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We recruited Chubb too. This whole narrative that we didn't was some peoples idea to help Scott commit. Chubb was too much to UGA to overcome.
Yes, but once Chubb said no, we could have gone after another RB or two. At least recruited them and brought them in for an OV. I suspect the reason we didn't is because originally, our coaches thought this class was only going to be 15-16. I think it was November before they decided to go for a full class of 22.
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Caldwell is an SEC issue. Not much we can do about an Illinois person screwing up. Prince isn't over but unlikely, but we also never led.
Prince is done. He listed a top five and we aren't on it. Maryland, UF, PSU, LSU, and Auburn.

He has three schools on that list that he hasn't even taken an OV to. What does that tell you?
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What confuses you, that Butch Jones can lie to a kid and he buy it?
What do you think Hugh Freeze tells all those kids to come to Ole Miss.
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Prince is done. He listed a top five and we aren't on it. Maryland, UF, PSU, LSU, and Auburn.

He has three schools on that list that he hasn't even taken an OV to. What does that tell you?
That he didn't like us that much. He said we were his third favorite out of three. What do you want the coaches to do to make him like us better?
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Prince is done. He listed a top five and we aren't on it. Maryland, UF, PSU, LSU, and Auburn.

He has three schools on that list that he hasn't even taken an OV to. What does that tell you?
He already said LSU and Auburn are out once he wanted to visit Penn St.
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What confuses you, that Butch Jones can lie to a kid and he buy it?
Sure, why not? It seemed to work for Scott, and it sure seems to work everywhere else.
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Yes, but once Chubb said no, we could have gone after another RB or two. At least recruited them and brought them in for an OV. I suspect the reason we didn't is because originally, our coaches thought this class was only going to be 15-16. I think it was November before they decided to go for a full class of 22.
Yep, we all remember the lower class number and only recently could we expand that.
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