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Old 01-28-2014, 01:52 PM   #2161
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True but some of these great recruiting schools already have great talent in their state such as UGA, FSU, UF, LSU, USCw. That is one of our greatest disadvantages. If we ever get to the point we aren't recruiting 4 stars in our own state bc there are too many to go after like Georgia I feel sure we would consistently pull a top 10 class or better.
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Old 01-28-2014, 02:08 PM   #2162
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What matters is how good our players are and how many holes we have filled, not how high our recruiting classes is ranked by recruiting gurus. We don't need to have our bench filled with bitter 4 star recruits. It's not good for team morale and some teams are suffering the effects.
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Old 01-28-2014, 02:16 PM   #2163
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True but some of these great recruiting schools already have great talent in their state such as UGA, FSU, UF, LSU, USCw. That is one of our greatest disadvantages. If we ever get to the point we aren't recruiting 4 stars in our own state bc there are too many to go after like Georgia I feel sure we would consistently pull a top 10 class or better.
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Old 01-28-2014, 03:05 PM   #2164
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Those that know, recruit the player that fits our system the best..may not get 1st choice, but as long as there is not a huge drop-off..on who they get, I'll trust their decisions..here's my problem..people argue about recruiting and it's usually between fans that don't know more than "hope" we do better than what we are doing...here's the bottom line we have had welcomed success consistently the past several years and that is just great..as long as we improve and not go backward, then I'm on-board..and if we go in reverse..well I'll just grumble like the rest of you..and argue with the wall expecting to win...
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At my last count...half of our recruits are so called 4 stars ...For what ever it is worth I would think that is pretty good.....It also seems we make OL and DL a priority ...That I like a lot..
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What C4L is missing when he looks at class ranking is that publications do rerank classes that take into account NFL prospects and on field prdcution by the team.

Example - our 2010 class was ranked 24th but Rivals reranked it #2 when all was said and done after 4 years.

Our '09 calss was originally ranked 12 but ended up at 7 with the rerank.

All this tells me is that some of the higher rated kids are overrated and that our coaches can ID talent and coach it up. Where I have somewhat of an issue is when our coaches ID a player that they really like and who may also be highly rated but they fail to close the deal.
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Old 01-28-2014, 03:48 PM   #2167
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Super Bowl XLV111 = Yep

Denver Roster
Five-Stars: 1
Four-Stars: 12
Three-Stars: 15
Two-Stars: 14
Unranked: 9
Pre-Rivals: 13

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Four-Stars: 8
Three-Stars: 19
Two-Stars: 12
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If you go back and read the threads, the consensus was that we did not need a RB in this class and that we were taking Derrell Scott or no one. With the OL, the consensus was that we were done when we got commits from Malik Young and Donnell Stanley. Yeah, it would have been nice to get Scott and Prince, but both are highly rated out of state guys that play positions where we are pretty much lset. With most highly rated guys looking at making the NFL in three years, South Carolina was not a good fit. So that means that suddenly failing at recruiting?

Instead, we are hitting a home run at our positions of need, like cornerback - where we can show early PT - DE, DT and WR. This is similar to last year, when we could offer immediate PT at linebacker and brought in Skai Moore, Larenz Bryant and Jonathan Walton. This will become the norm as our recuiting continues to improve - more early NFL departures, more early playing time for talented recruits.
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What C4L is missing when he looks at class ranking is that publications do rerank classes that take into account NFL prospects and on field prdcution by the team.

Example - our 2010 class was ranked 24th but Rivals reranked it #2 when all was said and done after 4 years.

Our '09 calss was originally ranked 12 but ended up at 7 with the rerank.

All this tells me is that some of the higher rated kids are overrated and that our coaches can ID talent and coach it up. Where I have somewhat of an issue is when our coaches ID a player that they really like and who may also be highly rated but they fail to close the deal.
Great example. Thanks for reminding about that makes me feel a little better
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The issue is that we'll NEVER be able to sign another running back EVER! The sky is falling!

The glue that held the minds of several posters together seemed to be the thinking that a long shot and a square peg to a round hole who BOTH want to play early at a position where that is highly improbable to happen at USC would commit here in spite of themselves. Thus, this off-season for this hand full of posters is positively ruined. Any excuses offered as to why each spot in a recruiting class isn't filled by our top choice is just that, an excuse. Obviously our coaches aren't good at recruiting and we need more money in the budget. It's also plain to see that we have hit a plateau and can't get over the mediocre 11 win season. While each team in our league has a chance to beat any other team on any given Saturday (or Thursday) and that for one team to move up one must move down, we should see improvement in the W/L ratio each year without fail. Anything else is subpar and a disgrace to the very recent history of this recently proud program.
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:19 PM   #2171
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Super Bowl XLV111 = Yep

Denver Roster
Five-Stars: 1
Four-Stars: 12
Three-Stars: 15
Two-Stars: 14
Unranked: 9
Pre-Rivals: 13

Seattle Roster
Five-Stars: 3
Four-Stars: 8
Three-Stars: 19
Two-Stars: 12
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This is in no way an accurate prediction on the success rate of the players based on their stars.

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Three-Stars: 15
Two-Stars: 14
Unranked: 9
Pre-Rivals: 13

Seattle Roster
Five-Stars: 3
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Three-Stars: 19
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If that doesn't prove stars are meaningful, I don't know what will.
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Super Bowl XLV111 = Yep

Denver Roster
Five-Stars: 1
Four-Stars: 12
Three-Stars: 15
Two-Stars: 14
Unranked: 9
Pre-Rivals: 13

Seattle Roster
Five-Stars: 3
Four-Stars: 8
Three-Stars: 19
Two-Stars: 12
Unranked: 12
Pre-Rivals: 7

Interesting that both teams have more two stars than 4 and 5 stars combined.

Recruiting is fun to watch in the off season, and important, but what happens on Saturdays in the fall is what counts.

The HBC said it best years ago after beating UGA when he was at UF. His question to the sports writers after the game, "how come Georgia has all the best players on National Signing Day, but we have the best players on game day?"
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Anyone know If we are pushing for any Vandy former or current recruits?
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Anyone know If we are pushing for any Vandy former or current recruits?
We were pushing for Uter I believe who was either a Vandy lean or commit, but he committed to Wake Forest today
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What about Dallas Rivers
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With us recently offering another WR in Florida this late in the game does it look like grades could affect a couple of our committed players? I know some were on the bubble but the coaches may not think someone makes it in.
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With us recently offering another WR in Florida this late in the game does it look like grades could affect a couple of our committed players? I know some were on the bubble but the coaches may not think someone makes it in.
I think it says our coaches like this guy more than Ford or Gladney.
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Which guy 381?
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