Jadeveon Clowney tops Ultimate ESPN 300 list.

Gamecocks1137 · 01-30-2014, 12:05 PM

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/re...imate-espn-300

"Jadeveon Clowney
South Carolina | DE | Class of 2011 rank: 1

RecruitingNation scouting report: Right off the bat Clowney grabs your attention with a very impressive physical presence. ... He looks to enjoy contact and will deliver some big hits. As a pass rusher he is tough to contain as he uses his long limbs and hands to club and punch by blockers. He also can be very quick off the ball. He plays with a good motor and will pursue to the ball. He also possesses excellent straight-line game speed, which allows him to be a factor on plays all over the field and has good overall athleticism. Full report Insider
College accolades: Unanimous All-American. Hendricks Award winner. SEC Defensive POY. Two-time, first-team All-SEC. SEC Freshman of the Year. Career statistics (3 years): 130 total tackles, 47 TFL, 24 sacks, 9 FFs."

List is filled with prospects going back to the 2006 draft class.

usc1 · 01-30-2014, 12:07 PM

This list made no sense, except for Clowney being #1

robgusc76 · 01-30-2014, 12:33 PM

There is NO freaking way Manti Te'o is one of the top 10 of all time. Thats ridiculous.

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Manti Te'o
Notre Dame | OLB | Class of 2009 rank: 2

RecruitingNation scouting report: Te'o appears to be a man among boys on film, a player whose physical weaknesses are difficult to spot. Plays fast and with great intensity. Fills inside with a good base and shows great power and strength when taking on pulling linemen and fullbacks at the point of attack. Full report Insider
College accolades: Unanimous All-American. Walter Camp national POY. Heisman runner-up. Winner of Nagurski, Bednarik, Butkus, Lott and Lombardi Awards. Career statistics (4 years): 437 total tackles, 34 TFL, 8.5 sacks, 7 INTs.

Gamecocks1137 · 01-30-2014, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by robgusc76

There is NO freaking way Manti Te'o is one of the top 10 of all time. Thats ridiculous.

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93
Manti Te'o
Notre Dame | OLB | Class of 2009 rank: 2

RecruitingNation scouting report: Te'o appears to be a man among boys on film, a player whose physical weaknesses are difficult to spot. Plays fast and with great intensity. Fills inside with a good base and shows great power and strength when taking on pulling linemen and fullbacks at the point of attack. Full report Insider
College accolades: Unanimous All-American. Walter Camp national POY. Heisman runner-up. Winner of Nagurski, Bednarik, Butkus, Lott and Lombardi Awards. Career statistics (4 years): 437 total tackles, 34 TFL, 8.5 sacks, 7 INTs.

Yeah I nearly choked on my coffee from laughter when I saw that.

JT21 · 01-30-2014, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by robgusc76

There is NO freaking way Manti Te'o is one of the top 10 of all time. Thats ridiculous.

7

93
Manti Te'o
Notre Dame | OLB | Class of 2009 rank: 2

RecruitingNation scouting report: Te'o appears to be a man among boys on film, a player whose physical weaknesses are difficult to spot. Plays fast and with great intensity. Fills inside with a good base and shows great power and strength when taking on pulling linemen and fullbacks at the point of attack. Full report Insider
College accolades: Unanimous All-American. Walter Camp national POY. Heisman runner-up. Winner of Nagurski, Bednarik, Butkus, Lott and Lombardi Awards. Career statistics (4 years): 437 total tackles, 34 TFL, 8.5 sacks, 7 INTs.

Considering they had him ranked 2nd in the entire 2009 class and he had a very good college career, it's not a stretch at all.

Gamecocks1137 · 01-30-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JT21

Considering they had him ranked 2nd in the entire 2009 class and he had a very good college career, it's not a stretch at all.

His imaginary girlfriend, would beg to differ on that assessment.

MOB49 · 01-30-2014, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgusc76

There is NO freaking way Manti Te'o is one of the top 10 of all time. Thats ridiculous.

7

93
Manti Te'o
Notre Dame | OLB | Class of 2009 rank: 2

RecruitingNation scouting report: Te'o appears to be a man among boys on film, a player whose physical weaknesses are difficult to spot. Plays fast and with great intensity. Fills inside with a good base and shows great power and strength when taking on pulling linemen and fullbacks at the point of attack. Full report Insider
College accolades: Unanimous All-American. Walter Camp national POY. Heisman runner-up. Winner of Nagurski, Bednarik, Butkus, Lott and Lombardi Awards. Career statistics (4 years): 437 total tackles, 34 TFL, 8.5 sacks, 7 INTs.

I agree considering Luke Kuechly did more in 3 years. Seriously 532 tackles in 3 years? :

Luke Kuechly
Boston College | OLB | Class of 2009 rank: NR

RecruitingNation scouting report: Difficult to find many physical flaws in Kuechly on film, and you actually see how well-rounded of a linebacker he is the more you watch. Is far from done physically developing as his tall, rangy, well-built frame should continue to add good bulk and tip the scales at the 240-pound range in college while retaining his current speed and athleticism. Full report

College accolades: Winner of the Butkus, Nagurski and Lombardi Awards. Two-time first-team All-American. Career statistics (3 years): ACC-record 532 total tackles, 3 sacks, 7 INTs.

garnet_black215 · 01-30-2014, 05:21 PM

Pretty sure this is as recruits, not as college players.

Gamecock_Aholic · 01-30-2014, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by garnet_black215

Pretty sure this is as recruits, not as college players.

That literally makes no sense. They've already judged the kids as recruits, thus their original rankings. This has everything to do with being college players.

garnet_black215 · 01-30-2014, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gamecock_Aholic

That literally makes no sense. They've already judged the kids as recruits, thus their original rankings. This has everything to do with being college players.

Everything? It says they blended what they know now with what they knew then. So, yes, it does take into account what they did as college players, but it also includes the recruiting aspect of it.

Gamecock_Aholic · 01-30-2014, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by garnet_black215

Everything? It says they blended what they know now with what they knew then. So, yes, it does take into account what they did as college players, but it also includes the recruiting aspect of it.

I'd love to know the formula they use to change a players rank based on stats that haven't changed since the initial rankings.

Cockadoo · 01-30-2014, 08:01 PM

Manti Te'o didn't even rank in the top 50 among the LB's his SR year, yet he went to a Heisman ceremony. He made some INTs and got some PR, that is all. Look what happened when he was stacked against others at his position at the combines.

uga dawg · 01-30-2014, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cockadoo

Manti Te'o didn't even rank in the top 50 among the LB's his SR year, yet he went to a Heisman ceremony. He made some INTs and got some PR, that is all. Look what happened when he was stacked against others at his position at the combines.

so we have determined that these rankings are nothing more than a popularity contest?

I totally agree.

henmania · 01-30-2014, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamecocks1137

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/re...imate-espn-300

"Jadeveon Clowney
South Carolina | DE | Class of 2011 rank: 1

RecruitingNation scouting report: Right off the bat Clowney grabs your attention with a very impressive physical presence. ... He looks to enjoy contact and will deliver some big hits. As a pass rusher he is tough to contain as he uses his long limbs and hands to club and punch by blockers. He also can be very quick off the ball. He plays with a good motor and will pursue to the ball. He also possesses excellent straight-line game speed, which allows him to be a factor on plays all over the field and has good overall athleticism. Full report Insider
College accolades: Unanimous All-American. Hendricks Award winner. SEC Defensive POY. Two-time, first-team All-SEC. SEC Freshman of the Year. Career statistics (3 years): 130 total tackles, 47 TFL, 24 sacks, 9 FFs."

List is filled with prospects going back to the 2006 draft class.

But ESPN's blog has him As the 15th best player in the SEC. Which is it?

uscsandstorm85 · 01-31-2014, 02:20 AM

There are a few head scratchers on this list.

Gamecock_Aholic · 01-31-2014, 02:27 AM

Two things I notice with this list. How the heck is Cam Newton 27th? He was unstoppable in college. And number two, one thing this shows me is, more often than not, the high ranked players turned out darn well.

USC843 · 01-31-2014, 01:19 PM

THIS LIST IS BASED ON RECRUITING. AS IN THE 300 BEST RECRUITS THEY'VE SEEN. HOW IS THIS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND?????

usc1 · 01-31-2014, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by USC843

THIS LIST IS BASED ON RECRUITING. AS IN THE 300 BEST RECRUITS THEY'VE SEEN. HOW IS THIS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND?????

You're off buddy. Manziel was a 3 star and #22 on this list. Again, this list makes no sense.

BlueHerons · 01-31-2014, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gamecocks1137

His imaginary girlfriend, would beg to differ on that assessment.

I see what you did there! Hahahaha!

Wayneworld11 · 02-01-2014, 01:30 AM

I can't believe Manti made it and the honey badger did not

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Gamecocks1137 Starter Male Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,317 CockyCash: 500	Jadeveon Clowney tops Ultimate ESPN 300 list. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/re...imate-espn-300 "Jadeveon Clowney South Carolina \| DE \| Class of 2011 rank: 1 RecruitingNation scouting report: Right off the bat Clowney grabs your attention with a very impressive physical presence. ... He looks to enjoy contact and will deliver some big hits. As a pass rusher he is tough to contain as he uses his long limbs and hands to club and punch by blockers. He also can be very quick off the ball. He plays with a good motor and will pursue to the ball. He also possesses excellent straight-line game speed, which allows him to be a factor on plays all over the field and has good overall athleticism. Full report Insider College accolades: Unanimous All-American. Hendricks Award winner. SEC Defensive POY. Two-time, first-team All-SEC. SEC Freshman of the Year. Career statistics (3 years): 130 total tackles, 47 TFL, 24 sacks, 9 FFs." List is filled with prospects going back to the 2006 draft class. __________________ "I'd rather be anywhere other than Clemson."

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