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Old 01-31-2014, 12:22 PM   #2221
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I'd like to get daly too im just not sure if he can be swayed from nc.
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Phil Kornblut believes we hurt ourselves at Havelock with the Kendall Vickers situation, at least in part it contributed to Scott's decision.

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Phil Kornblut believes we hurt ourselves at Havelock with the Kendall Vickers situation, at least in part it contributed to Scott's decision.

Awesome.
That is the one thing I really hate about recruiting. A kid doesn't qualify so you offer to place them and save them a spot in the next class. Another school with lower standards gets him admitted and all of a sudden the school who was working to get them placed is some sort of bad guy for not lowering standards. Happened with Arkie Smith as well. Same thing with all these HS. Coaches who want their ego stroked because they have a kid on their team that is D1 bound, if you don't kiss his ass you never get to see kids at the school again. Just stupid.
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Phil Kornblut believes we hurt ourselves at Havelock with the Kendall Vickers situation, at least in part it contributed to Scott's decision.

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Yep. That was another bad part about not getting him. It's a bigger deal than what most people want to admit.
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Yep. That was another bad part about not getting him. It's a bigger deal than what most people want to admit.

I don't think we did anything wrong in the Vickers situation. Our coaches were upfront with him all the time about the situation.
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If I recall correctly, we gave Vickers a chance when he wasn't highly sought and seemed a kind of tweener. The landing at another school is something that happens because of different admissions policies. Any recruit who isn't suspect about what's going on at Tennessee has to be wearing some sort of blinders.
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Vickers didn't seem upset at all when this went down. He even called our program a "class act" for how we handled it. See the link for the story at the time with quotes from Vickers.

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My overall impression so far is that we've recruited for needs, initially thinking our class would be limited to 14-16 kids. Later developments seem to point to bringing in 21- 23, with misses on a couple of targets causing some late moves to come into play. There may be a couple of non-qualifiers or silent decommits known to the coaches who are making backup plans. I think we are going heavy DL and too light on OL, but don't see available OL talent we want to invest a scholarship in. I think we will sign or grayshirt a running back and maybe a versitile, but unpursued athlete.
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My (humble, hope it's completely off-base) opinion: we land Lammons and Gibson, lose Green and BAW flips to UGA.

Hope I'm wrong about the latter 2.
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My (humble, hope it's completely off-base) opinion: we land Lammons and Gibson, lose Green and BAW flips to UGA.

Hope I'm wrong about the latter 2.
I hope you are too. That would be absolutely disastrous.
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I hope you are too. That would be absolutely disastrous.
The more I think about BAW taking all of these visits the more it bothers me w/r/t his commitment and points to uncertainty on his part. I understand the whole "he may see these coaches again at the next level" and "you're only a recruit once" stuff but you don't see Nick Chubb coming to South Carolina this weekend. Leonard Fournette isn't going to Texas this weekend. And yet the highest rated recruit we presently have (and are likely to have) is taking official visits to Alabama (understandable) and Georgia, our primary rival in the Eastern division.

I'm not one for the "if you're committed then you don't take other visits". It's the proximity of the visit to NSD and the UGA component. Just doesn't feel right.

Again: only based on my own feeling and I hope (x 10000000000) that I'm dead wrong.
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The more I think about BAW taking all of these visits the more it bothers me w/r/t his commitment and points to uncertainty on his part. I understand the whole "he may see these coaches again at the next level" and "you're only a recruit once" stuff but you don't see Nick Chubb coming to South Carolina this weekend. Leonard Fournette isn't going to Texas this weekend. And yet the highest rated recruit we presently have (and are likely to have) is taking official visits to Alabama (understandable) and Georgia, our primary rival in the Eastern division.

I'm not one for the "if you're committed then you don't take other visits". It's the proximity of the visit to NSD and the UGA component. Just doesn't feel right.

Again: only based on my own feeling and I hope (x 10000000000) that I'm dead wrong.
You make good points, particularly about players taking other visits. I understand that a player is only a recruit once, but taking OV's when you know a school is going to do everything they can to switch you, as well as have in-homes, is concerning. He's said all the right things, but there is still some lingering doubt. Players say all the time they're "just taking the free visit," and then it turns out to be something more than that. Now he's apparently watching the Super Bowl at Richt's house? No one can tell that's not the least bit concerning.
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Yall do know that he asked for our permission to take those visits...he siad that he would not have gone if we told him no.
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Yall do know that he asked for our permission to take those visits...he siad that he would not have gone if we told him no.
That prevents him from potentially changing his mind?
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Yall do know that he asked for our permission to take those visits...he siad that he would not have gone if we told him no.
I am sure our coaches appreciate that, but I don't think we would ever forbid a guy from taking a visit. Recruits should explore all their options and make sure of where they really want to go. It seems like a test of who remains loyal to me.
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Again I wish people would ban themselves till after signing day.
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Gee can a couple of you guys find a building with just one and a half floors and jump off hourly until Wednesday ? LOL .... it would make several of the people who read these threads feel better about recruiting this year. Thanks. JK....holey cow really that much disbelief over what 2 recruits have said and done. Don't think brainwashing is a legal recruiting tool in the SEC.....but with UcheaT I could be wrong. Think BAW has said mother may I of the coaches and his MOM. SHEESH.
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That prevents him from potentially changing his mind?
That's it, the thing he uses that apparently many other don't .....his brain. That's what prevents him from recruiting others to schools he is not interested in. But that is just BAW recruiter for USC,,,, cause he can and he must want to, seems he's discussed USC with other possible recruits . But then you know that and just wanna' have a complaint /gripe/ negative feeling too feel alive. Ok then there you go.
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Spurrier does not seem the sort of man that would worry about it enough to ban a kid from taking a trip to another school.
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That prevents him from potentially changing his mind?
no but it shows how much he respects our school and Whammy.....again, for the 1,000th time, he told them he would visit and he doesn't want to burn any bridges. When he got back from the Alabama visit last week, you know who the first person he called after his Mom, that's right Whammy. This kid is so legit, some of you just can't believe kids like this can be this honest and have this much intergrity.
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