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Old 11-14-2013, 01:52 PM   #21
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Default Re: Why is our Men's Soccer program not better?

I agree with the OP. The Men's soccer team is stuck in neutral. I think it comes down to Berson. But there may be facilities issues...i don't know. Either way. Our geography almost mandates that we should recruit the best players and be successful nationaly. Kind of like baseball.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:44 PM   #22
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Yes, from a conference that has had little success on a national stage. Like I said Conference USA is like winning the ACC in football, who cares. Currently there are only 3 teams ranked in the top 25, 4 in the top 50, from Conference USA. And, never produced a national champion.

I am not bashing the program, I am advocating turning up the heat and spending more money on the program. We have the ability to build the best facilities on the nation, and bringing in the best available players in the country from a wide open recruiting pool. There is no proverbial soccer power in the entire south. We can be that power, and we should. IMHO.
You should advocate a conference change more than anything. The team can only play the schedule they are given. If decent result with the current schedule doesn't make you happy, promote the change of said schedule.

Or head down to alabama and get the SEC to get their crap together.
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Old 11-14-2013, 05:48 PM   #23
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I've always wondered why the SEC didn't have mens soccer.

Why not?

We did beat the 5th best team in the country a couple of weeks ago. New Mexico in Columbia.

And conf usa has two teams in the top 16.
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:01 PM   #24
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Default Re: Why is our Men's Soccer program not better?

Title IX. Would have to add another women's program I think. Which they could. Field Hockey, Lacrosse, Rowing, something to get a men's soccer program.

Correction: SEC has 11 women's sports and 9 Men's sports. So I don't know why.
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Title IX. Would have to add another women's program I think. Which they could. Field Hockey, Lacrosse, Rowing, something to get a men's soccer program.

Correction: SEC has 11 women's sports and 9 Men's sports. So I don't know why.
It is not the number of teams but the number of players. Football takes up 85 schollies. That is a lot for the women's side to make up.
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:07 PM   #26
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I've always wondered why the SEC didn't have mens soccer.

Why not?

We did beat the 5th best team in the country a couple of weeks ago. New Mexico in Columbia.

And conf usa has two teams in the top 16.
They actually talked about this on ESPNU one day with Mike Slive and he basically said that he and the people in charge in the SEC do not consider soccer to be a mens sports and they will never sponsor it in the SEC. So basically feel it is for the women folk only.
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:09 PM   #27
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because Men's acc soccer is a greater pull for kids in the south. Plus, it's not a kid's dream to play in college. Many of them want to go pro in another country. Also,naia programs have less recruiting restrictions and can get some unbelievable talent. Smaller schools are sometimes better in soccer than larger. I know a gut from Scotland that played semi pro and where did he play? Milligan college. You ever heard of it? Most people haven't. There is another guy that I know who was the backup keeper at Everton. He played at brecia. another semi pro player in England...he played at west Virginia Wesleyan and was the naia Adidas goal keeper of the year.

Clint Dempsey played at Furman. Landon Donovan played at the sports academy school in Tampa add did altidore, if I am not mistaken. Many of the best players never played in college. Mia hamm, even though she went to unc, had a roster spoor in the national team Euler she was still in high school.

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We did have Brad Guzan for a bit. I'm hoping he overtakes Howard as Team USA's number 1 keeper before too long. He looked pretty good when Howard was out with cracked ribs.
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:32 PM   #28
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They actually talked about this on ESPNU one day with Mike Slive and he basically said that he and the people in charge in the SEC do not consider soccer to be a mens sports and they will never sponsor it in the SEC. So basically feel it is for the women folk only.
That sucks, but what can you do?

Win the Conf. USA.

As long as we can upgrade the facilities, we should be alright.

Somehow we need to encourage the US players to go to Uni and stay in the US. That will be hard to do, but there has to be a way we can better develop our players from the youth leagues to HS and in the college system before going pro. Maybe a one off signing bonus for having a degree or playing three years in college if they get drafted...something like that. Where there's a will, there's a way.

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Old 11-15-2013, 10:10 AM   #29
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They actually talked about this on ESPNU one day with Mike Slive and he basically said that he and the people in charge in the SEC do not consider soccer to be a mens sports and they will never sponsor it in the SEC. So basically feel it is for the women folk only.
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That sucks, but what can you do?

Win the Conf. USA.

As long as we can upgrade the facilities, we should be alright.

Somehow we need to encourage the US players to go to Uni and stay in the US. That will be hard to do, but there has to be a way we can better develop our players from the youth leagues to HS and in the college system before going pro. Maybe a one off signing bonus for having a degree or playing three years in college if they get drafted...something like that. Where there's a will, there's a way.
Unfortuantely, to play for the top clubs around the world you have to start early and get in the clubs youth system. Until the MLS can compete financially with other leagues I think we will continue to see top US talent choose to go abroad rather than stay home and play in college. It's similiar to the way NCAA baseball teams lose the best talent to the minors.
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:14 PM   #31
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There are plenty of players within 300 miles of Columbia to have a fantastic team every year. We are just not getting them. 17 of our current players are within 200 miles of Columbia, most are within 100 miles. With Atlanta and Charlotte being so close, we should pull them in easily.
Charlotte has its own power house in soccer as well as UNC right up the road.
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Old 11-18-2013, 10:57 PM   #32
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They actually talked about this on ESPNU one day with Mike Slive and he basically said that he and the people in charge in the SEC do not consider soccer to be a mens sports and they will never sponsor it in the SEC. So basically feel it is for the women folk only.
In other words...Alabama doesnt want men's soccer...
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:41 AM   #33
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In other words...Alabama doesnt want men's soccer...
No they actually put it to a vote a few times and it is overwhelming that the school presidents and AD's think that soccer is a women's sport and they don't want any part in men playing it. It also has to do title IX as they would have to add several different women's sports to offset it.
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We did have Brad Guzan for a bit. I'm hoping he overtakes Howard as Team USA's number 1 keeper before too long. He looked pretty good when Howard was out with cracked ribs.
I think Hamid will do that first
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And to think we almost had our first team national championship in soccer. Runner up.
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Wasn't '94. In 1994 we lost in the first round to NC State 1-0. It was 1993 and we lost to Virginia 2-0. It was Virginia's third straight men's title. The final four were played at Davidson, and I was lucky enough to be there for the final. I was crushed when we lost...I really thought we were going to win our first national championship that year. We beat a pretty good Furman team 1-0 in the first round, and then knocked Clemson out 3-2 in the second round.
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Wasn't '94. In 1994 we lost in the first round to NC State 1-0. It was 1993 and we lost to Virginia 2-0. It was Virginia's third straight men's title. The final four were played at Davidson, and I was lucky enough to be there for the final. I was crushed when we lost...I really thought we were going to win our first national championship that year. We beat a pretty good Furman team 1-0 in the first round, and then knocked Clemson out 3-2 in the second round.
I was there as well. There were 2 guys on UVA that could fly.
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