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Old 01-31-2014, 06:47 PM   #15821
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I'm not knocking this recruit. I watched the highlights.

My point is yes, Cook, Saunders and Cunningham are in the NFL....but we have premiere TE's on this team. Maybe the best TE tandem in the SEC and in years past (Cook, Saunders) would get the crossing routes underneath. This year....those plays disappeared.

My point.....if that trend will continue, then why pursue that talent at TE if it will not be utilized. Could just as well get pure blocking TE's or go for more WR's.
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Could you enlighten me on how the TE's were used this year?
Seems like number 89 caught a TD pass in the bowl game, plus at least one other critical third down conversion. Maybe that is wrong. That is just the most recent game.
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Default Re: 2014 - Kaylon "Poona" Ford

No, way 6th Street in Austin is huge. UT has a great music and nightlife scene. If Ford is the type of person who succumbs to temptation, then Purdue might be an option. OTH, maybe Ford is looking for the best party school in the nation. USC, Texas, and Purdue would stack up pretty good in that competition.

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Interesting possiblity. The experience with Spain having been encouraged by Stanford to choose them due to academics leading him to instead choose UNC over them and us and "kill two birds with one stone" exemplifies the curvy road that is recruiting.

Another possiblility noted to me is the HC's father played at CU. Don't doubt the father did play for CU. That would explain the HC's action were he leading Ford to CU vs SC but, as some have pointed out, it seems Ford is being encouraged to leave the state entirely which doesn't seem to necessarily support the CU vs SC perspective but ...?? It is an interesting "soap" regardless of the motives.
I am discounting the CU conspiracy theory. Not because it might be true. Rather, CU is mostly irrelevant anymore. It is not a rivaly so much as it is a domination.
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reading thread repeatedly accused the HC of directing Ford away from SC in a variety of instances but I did not gather the why from these accusations thus my ?
If you want to have a good understanding of this entire matter, you need to go back and read all posts after about November 30. I can tell you that I and another poster received PM's from someone calling himself BJ Payne. I have no way to know if this was him, but the other poster asked him a question that only Payne would know the answer and he answered it correctly.

Go back to page 55 and start reading.....it won't take as long as you might think.
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The recruit that won't go away... Kaylon "poona" Ford.
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No, way 6th Street in Austin is huge. UT has a great music and nightlife scene. If Ford is the type of person who succumbs to temptation, then Purdue might be an option. OTH, maybe Ford is looking for the best party school in the nation. USC, Texas, and Purdue would stack up pretty good in that competition.



I am discounting the CU conspiracy theory. Not because it might be true. Rather, CU is mostly irrelevant anymore. It is not a rivaly so much as it is a domination.
Payne isn't dumb enough to try to send Ford to Clemson. If he did it would make him look like a Clemson booster with his dad being a former player there and probably still having strong ties. That is why he makes the "I don't think I own a Clemson hat" remarks. He doesn't wanted to be busted for being a booster and get Clemson in trouble. So what he does is he just makes sure he doesn't go to USC instead.
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So because Poona's coach played for Clemson that makes is perfectly fine reason for the coach to hijack his player's recruiting an have USC eliminated from Poona's list? HIS FIRST MAJOR OFFER? Payne's motivation is not what is important. What is important is that he has crossed the line of decency and appropriate behavior for what a HS coach when their player is being recruited. He is a HS coach, he is not the guy's agent and he does not need to be acting like he is.
No it, nor anything else that comes to mind, excuses such action if indeed that is the case. What I said is that relationship might explain an individul with similar connections taking action to favor his preferred program at the expence of thier adversary had he done that. however the post widely agree he isn't giuding the young man toward CU but indeed away from SC, CU.. all the state of SC and, in some minds, away from the deep south in it's entirety.
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I am discounting the CU conspiracy theory. Not because it might be true. Rather, CU is mostly irrelevant anymore. It is not a rivaly so much as it is a domination.[/QUOTE]

That brings up a most interesting stand I have seen presented by many of our fans. That being that due to our recent run the overall history of the matchup isn't relative. The only thing that matters is the now....who last won and how many yrs in a row that streak runs. Clearly at 5 that is presently us.

here is the delima with discounting the series history. one can't have it's cake and eat it two. If we win ongoing with out exception, which will suit us all just fine, then the above stand works just fine but if at any point CU pulls a win then anyone with any credibility has two choices... Either stay with the "live in the present, past means nothing" which hands sway back to CU or history does count and go with the overall series #s.

That is why I choose to go with a combo aproach. History does indeed matter and credit where it's due to CU however the recent trend, is team winning a majority of the recent contest, is a better indicator of the programs standing.
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I was just paraphrasing Dabo about that. In reality, Vic was right. "What's the overall record? Oh, I guess we need to win some more."

With regard to whatshisname, I just am not ready to subscribe to the Clemson bogeyman theory. I think it is his Midwest bias above all.

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Busta had a huge catch in the UF game. Adams had a couple of huge catches in the Mizzou game. Overall I think they both had productive years. Maybe what 4 TDs combined...around 25 receptions combined...

Spurrier's offense has never been an offense to focus and utilize the TE alot...Never has! and Never will! Some people just can't let that sink in.
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He's had a history of doing this. He told Bo Baldwin not to come here as well. That combined with Poona actually wanting to come here early on, saying he was going to take an official, and Payne being the one to notify the presses that he wasn't....oh, and combine that with Payne coming on here and threatening posters via PM...

Well, doesn't take a genius to see what was going on.
How does a HC at Hilton Head get to advise a QB prospect at Aiken on what college to go to?

This whole thing is just silly IMO. All the idiot posters in this thread are too stupid to see how their continued teeth gnashing and bitter, sour-grapes conjecturing on all the conspiracy theories over one little prospect and his HS HC just makes our fanbase look small and petty, and gives that HC - if he does indeed visit this website - all the future ammunition he'll ever need.

It's just one kid, from a high school that has never been a recruiting pipeline for ANY major college program. But no one seems capable of letting this whole thing go. It's pathetic, really......
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How does a HC at Hilton Head get to advise a QB prospect at Aiken on what college to go to?

This whole thing is just silly IMO. All the idiot posters in this thread are too stupid to see how their continued teeth gnashing and bitter, sour-grapes conjecturing on all the conspiracy theories over one little prospect and his HS HC just makes our fanbase look small and petty, and gives that HC - if he does indeed visit this website - all the future ammunition he'll ever need.

It's just one kid, from a high school that has never been a recruiting pipeline for ANY major college program. But no one seems capable of letting this whole thing go. It's pathetic, really......
I don't know who posted about Baldwin, all I know we hear about Poona how he likes USC and how we are his dream school than we hear from Mr. Payne. - Poona doesn't like USC. We about thinking about visiting USC around Shrine Bowl and Strong going to Texas our coaches meet with him and set up a visit date, two days later - BJ Payne: Poona doesn't want to visit USC. Every time Poona says something complimentary or like he is interested. MAJOR PAYNE comes out says Poona doesn't like USC, USC is not in contention, Poona doesn't want to visit USC. That is all I know! and that is all I need to! We are trying to get a piece of Poona and the guy is C*ckblocking us every step of the way. He's a Gamecockblocker.
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Rooster, where did you get that 40 time? His 247sports.com profile says he runs a 4.83, 40.

He plays at Theodore HS west of Mobile. They aren't a great program but they play some very good teams in the Mobile area.
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Kid has been recorded numerous times in the 4.5 - 4.6 range. He is 6'3" 215 lbs and bench presses over 300 lbs. He could play LB, TE, or WR according to TBS. Do not understand some thinking in this thread. The town he is from only has 6,000 people total so he was way way under the radar. Not trying to compare him to Captain Munnerlyn as a player but their recruitment is very similar. If he doesn't pan out then he likely won't be here in 2 years anyhow so it really doesn't matter. I think Botkin is an excellent evaluator and I really feel this kid could be a good one in the future.
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Hudl is a place where people post stuff. Online I'm 6'4'' 240 and bench press 400.
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Seems like number 89 caught a TD pass in the bowl game, plus at least one other critical third down conversion. Maybe that is wrong. That is just the most recent game.

Exactly my point. "Ok mr stud TE recruit. Come here and we might throw to you 30 times all year."

How many attempts did the WR's get? I'm saying if the TE is gonna be next to nil, then why pursue top talent at the position? Seems we are wasting time and could focus on RB's and WR's and just get a big blocking TE.
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I don't know who posted about Baldwin, all I know we hear about Poona how he likes USC and how we are his dream school than we hear from Mr. Payne. - Poona doesn't like USC. We about thinking about visiting USC around Shrine Bowl and Strong going to Texas our coaches meet with him and set up a visit date, two days later - BJ Payne: Poona doesn't want to visit USC. Every time Poona says something complimentary or like he is interested. MAJOR PAYNE comes out says Poona doesn't like USC, USC is not in contention, Poona doesn't want to visit USC. That is all I know! and that is all I need to! We are trying to get a piece of Poona and the guy is C*ckblocking us every step of the way. He's a Gamecockblocker.
Everything you just posted is old news now. We are done with Ford. Nothing that's being posted in this thread now is other than conspiracy theory and the same bitter opinions about Ford's head coach repeated ad-nausea. My opinion is to let the thread die off of the front page, like it did back when it was thought he was going on to Louisville to play for Strong....
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Exactly my point. "Ok mr stud TE recruit. Come here and we might throw to you 30 times all year."

How many attempts did the WR's get? I'm saying if the TE is gonna be next to nil, then why pursue top talent at the position? Seems we are wasting time and could focus on RB's and WR's and just get a big blocking TE.
It could be most teams targeted the TE's on defense allowing the smaller receivers to have the production I previously referenced?
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Can we just wish the kid the best wherever he goes and delete this thread?
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