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Old 02-01-2014, 06:04 PM   #321
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i dont worry about his ability to command the team. its more a matter of connor playing great in that game than dylan being inept as well as us making the proper adjustments against their defense (screens).

he does need to be more technically sound as others have mentioned to become more accurate. dylan only got one drive in the 2nd half, we drove inside the missouri 33 yd line four out of his eight drives, not including the kneel down before the half.
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I doubt he was specifically talking about you. As for DT leadership ability, although I have my fears (it is so much easier to be the backup than the starter in terms of what is expected of you.), they would be 10 times as big if it looked like we were starter mitch or noso or if DT had not played well in 2012.
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i dont worry about his ability to command the team. its more a matter of connor playing great in that game than dylan being inept as well as us making the proper adjustments against their defense (screens).

he does need to be more technically sound as others have mentioned to become more accurate. dylan only got one drive in the 2nd half, we drove inside the missouri 33 yd line four out of his eight drives, not including the kneel down before the half.

Exactly. I saw several comments after my previous post that seemed to think I (can't speak for others) am against DT getting the job. That could not be further from the truth (at least for me).

Put me in the camp of 1) yes I have seen DT at times be great yet 2) at times the offense has sputtered under his command and therefore 3) the job is not 100% his, may the best man win.

I think DT has tremendous character and if he wins the job I will support him 120%. But I don't think he's done enough yet to say "hands down, DT is the best man for the job."

I was very vocal about CS getting time when Garcia was struggling, and when he got the ECU start over Garcia he had earned it. But at that time there was no denying the offense reacted/played differently under SG's leadership as evidenced later in that game.

Now in hindsight, we all know CS eventually commanded the same respect/"can do" attitude that Garcia enveloped. But it was not there in that ECU game. We all know CS eventually commanded the respect of every team in the country, most of all his own! That ECU game was similar to the Mizzou game in terms of the offense playing better under their perceived Captain. If DT can get the team to believe in him the same way they believed in CS, the job will be his. But he has not done that yet...

I want to see him fight for the job, earn it, and prove he deserves to keep it - plain and simple. I like DT just as much as any other Gamecock fan but there's a lot left to be earned. If another QB steps forward and proves he can do it better/faster then so be it. I trust SOS and his assessment of who the best QB is on our roster. MAY THE BEST MAN WIN!!
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"Conner" Shaw will be our starting Qb next year, after he forges his birth certificate, falsifies his name and a couple other things!




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I suppose you're talking about me, and I agree that coming out of 2012, I wanted DT to play equally with Shaw, but I never advocated that he take the starting spot. I thought DT was underrated by the fanbase, and I defended him. However, I would have been saddened to see Shaw wash out, just as I don't want to throw Thompson under the bus now. To me, they are people, not just football players.

When players have worked as hard as both of them have and represented us as well as both of them have, they deserve our respect.

As for Thompson's leadership, the guys we have now will follow him since Spurrier has emphasized that he is the leader. Thompson has said that he will be the first at workouts and practices, and the last to leave. I believe what he says until he does otherwise. It's good to know that he has two very good backups. As we've seen in the last three years, those backups are very important.
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Last year at this time people were calling for Dylan to start over Connor......now Dylan isn't capable this year?
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Last year at this time people were calling for Dylan to start over Connor......now Dylan isn't capable this year?
Probably because the few times that Dylan actually did play, he was off.
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:53 AM   #328
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If DT can get the team to believe in him the same way they believed in CS, the job will be his. But he has not done that yet...
Sure he did...v. CU in '12.

But Dylan still hasn't started for a whole season, which is where Connor and the offense developed the mental skills used to beat Mizzou. The losses to teams like AU, LSU, Arky; were stepping stones for Connor to play the way he did in '13. Let's hope Dylan grows from the Mizzou game.
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Can someone help me understand the problem with DT. Coach Spurrier has picked him as the starter. For someone to question DT is questioning the HBC decision. Its not about DT, it is the decision of the HBC and staff. I really think the offense will change to more of pro-style Fun and Gun. In which sets DT apart from Connor Shaw. Add 8 months of DT knowing he is the QB will make a difference from any game he prepared as a backup. Lastly, one thing for Dillion has the confidence of one of the greatest college football coaches of all time who himself was a QB. Lets move on to a bigger question. With likely 22 signees, who will be dropped from the team.
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Considering that he played well in 2012 without being the full time starter, arguements that dt's struggles in 2013 are the soul product of him not being namedthe full time starter seem quite ephemeral.
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Considering that he played well in 2012 without being the full time starter, arguements that dt's struggles in 2013 are the soul product of him not being namedthe full time starter seem quite ephemeral.
Maybe you can understand it this way. During the spring and fall pre-season, the QB announced as the started gets to work with the 1st string 90% of the time, the back-up 10% of the time. So do you think it makes a difference if a QB has 90 reps with the 1st team or 10 reps with the 1st team. Now over the spring and fall that could translate into 1000's of reps with 1st team for DT. Also, over the summer, the coaches will gameplan towards Dillions strong points, as oppose to when Dillion was the backup and the gameplan was for Connor's strong points.
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Maybe you can understand it this way. During the spring and fall pre-season, the QB announced as the started gets to work with the 1st string 90% of the time, the back-up 10% of the time. So do you think it makes a difference if a QB has 90 reps with the 1st team or 10 reps with the 1st team. Now over the spring and fall that could translate into 1000's of reps with 1st team for DT. Also, over the summer, the coaches will gameplan towards Dillions strong points, as oppose to when Dillion was the backup and the gameplan was for Connor's strong points.
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Can someone help me understand the problem with DT. Coach Spurrier has picked him as the starter. For someone to question DT is questioning the HBC decision. Its not about DT, it is the decision of the HBC and staff. I really think the offense will change to more of pro-style Fun and Gun. In which sets DT apart from Connor Shaw. Add 8 months of DT knowing he is the QB will make a difference from any game he prepared as a backup. Lastly, one thing for Dillion has the confidence of one of the greatest college football coaches of all time who himself was a QB. Lets move on to a bigger question. With likely 22 signees, who will be dropped from the team.
When did spurrier pick him as the starter, I thought it was an open competition at this point
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Maybe you can understand it this way. During the spring and fall pre-season, the QB announced as the started gets to work with the 1st string 90% of the time, the back-up 10% of the time. So do you think it makes a difference if a QB has 90 reps with the 1st team or 10 reps with the 1st team. Now over the spring and fall that could translate into 1000's of reps with 1st team for DT. Also, over the summer, the coaches will gameplan towards Dillions strong points, as oppose to when Dillion was the backup and the gameplan was for Connor's strong points.
no I completely get the arguement. I was pointing out that it is overly simplified and requires ignoring all of the evidence contradicting it, most notably the 2012 season.
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When did spurrier pick him as the starter, I thought it was an open competition at this point
Spurrier publically said he is the starting QB next year and that the job was his as long as he is healthy. Also mentioned there would be an interesting battle for the backup job.
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He announced it to the crowd at a basketball game when the football team was recognized. He had already said it at least four times in print. After the game, he reiterated it in his interview. Spurrier has done everything but tattoo it on his forehead.
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He announced it to the crowd at a basketball game when the football team was recognized. He had already said it at least four times in print. After the game, he reiterated it in his interview. Spurrier has done everything but tattoo it on his forehead.

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