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If they don't get any better than this, they shouldn't be playing for a scholarship either. Give some one else a chance.
Oh, someone else will get a chance. At this point, I think it's just a question of how many someones.
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I have to say this is the first game I have missed in a long time. I thought of tuning in halfway through the 2nd half, after looking up the score I could not bring myself to do so. Just terrible.
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It is a joke, worse than Horn, but yet you got those garnet colored glasses that will keep defending FM.The fact is he can't coach. K state was doing well when he took over and anit to bad right now. Please remember that these kids they bring in are in D1 ballers and play like it is their first time ever. A good coach can at least teach the basics to bball and none of that has been shown. Hell pay me half of what he makes and I can sit on the bench throw my arms up at the refs and when my players come over go to cursing them out, thats easy. FM is not the guy. I really hope that FM and the ones that believe in him can prove me wrong but I don't see that happening anytime soon. With all this being said I truly hope everyone can prove me wrong and I will eat a crow the size of a cow.
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If Shamiek Sheppard commits and signs you can say goodbye to someone. If I had to guess right now it's either Theus or Shaw. If politics play into it, bye bye Shaw.
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It is a joke, worse than Horn, but yet you got those garnet colored glasses that will keep defending FM.The fact is he can't coach. K state was doing well when he took over and anit to bad right now. Please remember that these kids they bring in are in D1 ballers and play like it is their first time ever. A good coach can at least teach the basics to bball and none of that has been shown. Hell pay me half of what he makes and I can sit on the bench throw my arms up at the refs and when my players come over go to cursing them out, thats easy. FM is not the guy. I really hope that FM and the ones that believe in him can prove me wrong but I don't see that happening anytime soon. With all this being said I truly hope everyone can prove me wrong and I will eat a crow the size of a cow.
Then give the man a chance to prove you wrong, my goodness.
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Who would give more money, Theus family or Shaws family. Not to mention we have yet to bring in a post player for 2014, while adding 1 PG and 2 Wing players. I wouldn't say it's definitely Theus as Shaw is baring seeing action now and would see even less action if Johnson weren't hurt.
Shaw has actually been ok, Theus has not looked good at all in the few minutes he has played
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Just watched the game, ATROCIOUS on offense. Our bigs constantly come out past the 3 point line to receive a pass only to nearly give it away trying to give it right back to the guard. THE DEFENSE KNOWS L CHAT is no threat way out there, it's just pointless to me to do that I just don't get it. Half the time it ends up in a turnover. Brian Steele is running around wayyyy too hard, overplaying everything, airballing 4 foot shots...but did play better once he calmed down but lets be honest, he is not the answer. Henry is one of the worst offensive big men i have ever seen in my life, i've never seen so many bricks and airballs that close to the basket. Apparently no one on our team knows how to hold onto the ball.

I think we overplay everything, every little pass we dive all over the floor like Frank will eat us for dinner tonight if our guys look like they aren't hustling. Playing scared half the time. Too many people on this board were drooling all over some of these late 2* recruits Frank signed. Things are worse now when they were when Horn was here in my opinion. Someone needs to call Greg Marshall and ask him how much money it would take to come coach here. I'm willing to give him my share to fix this mess.
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I honestly have not paid too much attention to our BB team other than to check the scores of their games, so I have a question or two for those that have paid more attention. Are we this bad? Is it coaching or do we lack quality players? Why do we not seem to be getting any better? Frank Martin strikes me as a decent coach but am I wrong about that? We don't seem to be improving and we are getting blown out by teams that should not be blowing us out. Seems to me we haven't been worth a sh*t since we ran Fogler off. So to all Gamecock BB fans out there- What seems to be our problem and how do we fix it?
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Shaw has actually been ok, Theus has not looked good at all in the few minutes he has played
I agree. But the political point makes sense also. Theus may be kept on if we don't get any additional big man this recruiting cycle.
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So for all you frank Martin lovers out there, sell me on the fact that he is a good coach and the man for the job.
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I honestly have not paid too much attention to our BB team other than to check the scores of their games, so I have a question or two for those that have paid more attention. Are we this bad? Is it coaching or do we lack quality players? Why do we not seem to be getting any better? Frank Martin strikes me as a decent coach but am I wrong about that? We don't seem to be improving and we are getting blown out by teams that should not be blowing us out. Seems to me we haven't been worth a sh*t since we ran Fogler off. So to all Gamecock BB fans out there- What seems to be our problem and how do we fix it?
Why do you care? You don't support the team. Why should we have to tell you what's happened this season? Why don't you watch some games on ESPN3? Why don't you attend some games? Why don't you tune in on TV? Why don't you figure out how the Ken Pomeroy statistics can help you understand what the problem is? Why don't you read some books on basketball to help you understand what it takes to be a winning team? Why don't you think critically and for yourself instead of relying on a message board to do it for you?
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Just watched the game, ATROCIOUS on offense. Our bigs constantly come out past the 3 point line to receive a pass only to nearly give it away trying to give it right back to the guard. THE DEFENSE KNOWS L CHAT is no threat way out there, it's just pointless to me to do that I just don't get it. Half the time it ends up in a turnover. Brian Steele is running around wayyyy too hard, overplaying everything, airballing 4 foot shots...but did play better once he calmed down but lets be honest, he is not the answer. Henry is one of the worst offensive big men i have ever seen in my life, i've never seen so many bricks and airballs that close to the basket. Apparently no one on our team knows how to hold onto the ball.

I think we overplay everything, every little pass we dive all over the floor like Frank will eat us for dinner tonight if our guys look like they aren't hustling. Playing scared half the time. Too many people on this board were drooling all over some of these late 2* recruits Frank signed. Things are worse now when they were when Horn was here in my opinion. Someone needs to call Greg Marshall and ask him how much money it would take to come coach here. I'm willing to give him my share to fix this mess.
I think you're trying too hard to sound like you know what you're talking about. No one is drooling over 2* recruits. Most people understand that it takes time to build a program. You're too dense to get that though.
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Why do you care? You don't support the team. Why should we have to tell you what's happened this season? Why don't you watch some games on ESPN3? Why don't you attend some games? Why don't you tune in on TV? Why don't you figure out how the Ken Pomeroy statistics can help you understand what the problem is? Why don't you read some books on basketball to help you understand what it takes to be a winning team? Why don't you think critically and for yourself instead of relying on a message board to do it for you?

Thanks for your valuable insight, you've been most helpful.
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Get a life.
A very mature and well thought out answer.

It's a simple question, why is he the man for the job?
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A very mature and well thought out answer.

It's a simple question, why is he the man for the job?
People who have followed the program for a long time are frustrated when others are so quick to write off FM. No one knows if he is the right guy or not at this point, but this program did not get where it is overnight and it will not be fixed in 1 season by a bunch of Fresh and Sophomores.

Martin has shown in his history that he can coach and recruit. We have not had that combination in a coach in 20 years. His destiny has yet to be determined. I remember a program that was something like 0-21 in football, who now is ranked in the top 5. I think what you are hearing is: Support the coach and the team or go back to ignoring them. Bitching about the program doesn't help.
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People who have followed the program for a long time are frustrated when others are so quick to write off FM. No one knows if he is the right guy or not at this point, but this program did not get where it is overnight and it will not be fixed in 1 season by a bunch of Fresh and Sophomores.

Martin has shown in his history that he can coach and recruit. We have not had that combination in a coach in 20 years. His destiny has yet to be determined. I remember a program that was something like 0-21 in football, who now is ranked in the top 5. I think what you are hearing is: Support the coach and the team or go back to ignoring them. Bitching about the program doesn't help.
I have followed for a long time. Did not miss a game while I was in school. Martin has shown he ca recruit, yes. But I am not sold on him as a coach or a developer of talent. KState had a lot of talent while he was there, talent can cover up coaching, look at Ohio state the past few years. At this point the the season the freshman label does not apply. Fact is the kids still play way to tense. Look at the tam game, they played loose and ran away with it. They have not played the same way since. Too many blow outs. For those who say the players should get tougher skin or whatever to deal with Martin, I ask this, shouldn't a good coach know when to change his style to the players he has? He recruited these kids to play, so he can not blame not having the talent he wants.

Feel free to attack and slam me all you guys want, but ask yourselves this, has the team really improved since game one of the season ?
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