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Old 02-16-2014, 10:48 PM   #481
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Alshon from USC wasn't too bad, or D.J. Swearinger from UT, I guess that worked out. And our coaches probably had something to do with getting former UF commitments Chris Lammons and Mike Davis.
1. Southern Cal is not a division rival.

2. Davis and Lammons had long decommitted from UF before they committed here.

3. I'll give you Swearinger. That's one.
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1. Southern Cal is not a division rival.

2. Davis and Lammons had long decommitted from UF before they committed here.

3. I'll give you Swearinger. That's one.
And I'm not sure if you'll count this one since it's Vandy, but I seem to remember us flipping Chris Moody from them.
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None of them were committed to division rivals. Let's see us steal a commitment from UGA, UF, or UT, and then we'll talk.
your premise is flawed....we will never be able to flip more Ga kids to us simply because it's their home state so it's less likely. do you just sit around and invent things to be miserable about. have you admitted you were wrong yet about Wideman, Green, Lammons and BAW. Maybe I missed it.
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We ended up with a great day on NSD and 2 weeks later 215 back to the whining. Good grief!
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your premise is flawed....we will never be able to flip more Ga kids to us simply because it's their home state so it's less likely. do you just sit around and invent things to be miserable about. have you admitted you were wrong yet about Wideman, Green, Lammons and BAW. Maybe I missed it.
Maybe you but the home state argument, but I don't. By your logic, we should have flipped Tramel Terry.

Secondly, show me where I said we wouldn't get Lammons, Green or BAW. I was wrong about Wideman, but you'll notice in the garnet ball thread I predicted Lammons and Green would come here. You'll also notice in Greens thread that I said the crystal ball was 90% us. Funny how you ignore that, but maybe that kind of logic is too much for you.

Third, good to know carolinamyke hasn't ignored me yet. Guess he's still interested in what I have to say.
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Maybe you but the home state argument, but I don't. By your logic, we should have flipped Tramel Terry.

Secondly, show me where I said we wouldn't get Lammons, Green or BAW. I was wrong about Wideman, but you'll notice in the garnet ball thread I predicted Lammons and Green would come here. You'll also notice in Greens thread that I said the crystal ball was 90% us. Funny how you ignore that, but maybe that kind of logic is too much for you.

Third, good to know carolinamyke hasn't ignored me yet. Guess he's still interested in what I have to say.
you had many, many posts in each of their threads saying you didn't think they would come here....time after time....you aren't denying that are you.

something you probably aren't considering, many of the current players grew up liking GA because they had a good team most every year, while we only had marginal teams in many of those years.....so many of them grew up liking GA more than SC.

instead of trying to count the flips, why not count all the great Ga players were get each year that don't flip....BAW and Sawyer for example. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the best, what grade do you give our 2014 class.
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We don't go after guys once they commit somewhere else. They have to come to us. We respect the recruits choice in the matter.
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this isn't true.....we went after McClain after he committed to Nebraska and flipped him......this is a recent example.....and I'm sure we will continue to recruit Rivers. Georgia told him some things that aren't true and Whammy will straighten him out.
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We don't go after guys once they commit somewhere else. They have to come to us. We respect the recruits choice in the matter.
Wideman and McClain, we just did that. Also Grady said he recruited Lammons the whole time he was committed to UF. We are going to do it to other schools, other schools are going to do it to us.

uga just fed Rivers the bullshit they fed BAW a couple weeks ago, probably have him a hard line offer and he took it.

Rivers will get the rating bump from this....then switch back to us later.
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McClain is a bad example because we were definitely called by his coach and invited to get involved in his recruitment
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McClain is a bad example because we were definitely called by his coach and invited to get involved in his recruitment
this is true, but we were called before his OV to Nebraska, we visited him, then he went on that OV and committed. However, we kept after him and flipped him w/o him ever taking a visit here.
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This is just false.
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Looks like UGA is switching to a 4-3, which is a huge reason why Rivers flipped.
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Wideman and McClain, we just did that. Also Grady said he recruited Lammons the whole time he was committed to UF. We are going to do it to other schools, other schools are going to do it to us.

uga just fed Rivers the bullshit they fed BAW a couple weeks ago, probably have him a hard line offer and he took it.

Rivers will get the rating bump from this....then switch back to us later.
A couple of things that might make it less likely for him to switch back to us. Pruitt told him they are switching back to a base 4-3, and River's mom sounds all UGA.
They might find themselves in a bit of a bind though, because if they run the 4-3 this year their personnel is not best suited for that, and if they don't it will be evident that Pruitt is just telling recruits what they want to hear. My guess is they'll primarily run the 3-4 this year, but keep telling Rivers the switch to a 4-3 is coming.
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Oooo, from our recruiting perspective I really don't like Georgia switching to a 4-3.
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I think some of you are mis-representing how/why players flip. We have had players flip to other schools because that was their first choice and they did not initially get an offer there. Rivers is a good example, we were not his first choice in his mind, GA was.

Secondly, we have had some kids come to us, again not because we were their first choice, but because the school that they committed to, went out and got better players than they were, and they decided to choose another school where they might get to play. Lammons is a perfect example, FLA got Tabor which meant Lammons was not likely to see the field, so he started looking around.

I am not slighting our recruiters, in each case they were there to pick up the pieces once they fell apart. But to characterize us as flipping Lammons from Florida and McClain from FSU/NEB is not the case.

We are fortunate that we are a good enough program and have a good enough coaching staff that players who have to settle for their second choice, many times will choose us, and in many cases turn out to be better players than the players they were chosen over at their first choice school.

We do have kids who choose us and we were their first choice, BAW is a prime example, but don't confuse the two.

I hope we stay on Rivers, but unless GA gets players that are much better than Rivers, I don't see him switching back to us.
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you had many, many posts in each of their threads saying you didn't think they would come here....time after time....you aren't denying that are you.

something you probably aren't considering, many of the current players grew up liking GA because they had a good team most every year, while we only had marginal teams in many of those years.....so many of them grew up liking GA more than SC.

instead of trying to count the flips, why not count all the great Ga players were get each year that don't flip....BAW and Sawyer for example. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the best, what grade do you give our 2014 class.
Find those posts. As for your question, I give it a six, maybe a seven. No OT, no RB, and 3/5 of the DL commits have academic issues.
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I think some of you are mis-representing how/why players flip. We have had players flip to other schools because that was their first choice and they did not initially get an offer there. Rivers is a good example, we were not his first choice in his mind, GA was.

Secondly, we have had some kids come to us, again not because we were their first choice, but because the school that they committed to, went out and got better players than they were, and they decided to choose another school where they might get to play. Lammons is a perfect example, FLA got Tabor which meant Lammons was not likely to see the field, so he started looking around.

I am not slighting our recruiters, in each case they were there to pick up the pieces once they fell apart. But to characterize us as flipping Lammons from Florida and McClain from FSU/NEB is not the case.

We are fortunate that we are a good enough program and have a good enough coaching staff that players who have to settle for their second choice, many times will choose us, and in many cases turn out to be better players than the players they were chosen over at their first choice school.

We do have kids who choose us and we were their first choice, BAW is a prime example, but don't confuse the two.

I hope we stay on Rivers, but unless GA gets players that are much better than Rivers, I don't see him switching back to us.
IMO if we can reel in Barnett we have upgraded to a better prospect at DE than either Key or Rivers. I know Whammy is wanting to keep a strong hold on the Atlanta area but I want us to prioritize our SC HS Blue Chippers first which has been our formula for success.
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IMO if we can reel in Barnett we have upgraded to a better prospect at DE than either Key or Rivers. I know Whammy is wanting to keep a strong hold on the Atlanta area but I want us to prioritize our SC HS Blue Chippers first which has been our formula for success.
Agree 100%. Barnett looks like the real-deal. Anybody on the board seen him play in person? (Haha, just posted that and realized we're getting off track a bit in Key's thread. Key is the real deal too, just a year or 2 behind some of the other guys physically.)
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