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Old 02-16-2014, 06:44 PM   #21
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I'm going out on a limb and say Dillon will win the 500, NASCAR will make sure of that.
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get rid of restrictor plates.....let's get back to real racing....
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Yeah, I find him winning the pole today was somewhat of a set up. It doesn't matter where you start, it is where you finish.
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:53 PM   #25
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Yeah, I find him winning the pole today was somewhat of a set up. It doesn't matter where you start, it is where you finish.
Pole position is earned unless there was just some outright cheating. The outcome is something NASCAR can control if they wanted too, a beneficial caution or something else that Helton or France can do to affect the outcome of the race.
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:56 PM   #26
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Pole position is earned unless there was just some outright cheating. The outcome is something NASCAR can control if they wanted too, a beneficial caution or something else that Helton or France can do to affect the outcome of the race.
Don't think they could omit something in post qualifying inspection? Not saying it happened, but man it's awfully convenient for NASCAR.
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Don't think they could omit something in post qualifying inspection? Not saying it happened, but man it's awfully convenient for NASCAR.
To be honest, I felt the same way after Junior won the 500 in 2001. For the sake of my love for Dale Earnhardt Sr. I want so hard to believe Junior really won that race, and it wasn't a set up.
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get rid of restrictor plates.....let's get back to real racing....
I like the sentiment........I really do. But these cars would be pushing well over 230 mph, which in and of itself isn't a big deal, its when they start wrecking that no plates will be a disaster. Don't get me wrong, I'm over 50, my Nascar is exactly what you speak of, it's just that the liability these days is like a cold shower...........NASCAR can't have it.
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:19 PM   #29
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Don't think they could omit something in post qualifying inspection? Not saying it happened, but man it's awfully convenient for NASCAR.
Anything is possible under the "expert" "all-knowing" eyes of NASCAR. They would turn a bind eye on RCR but openly target HMS.
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NASCAR gives the teams the restrictor plate at the track. If they want someone on the pole then it will happen.
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:41 PM   #31
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NASCAR got real big and became sort of a fad in the mid 1990s, then they expanded to new territory (alienating many traditional fans). Now the fad has faded and they are trying to re-invent themselves (again). The last race narrowed down to 4 contenders will be interesting. NHRA Drag racing had a similar deal from 1965-73 where the winner of the World Finals was World Champ. They went to a season long points system in 1974 to determine champs. NASCAR added the "playoff element" in 2004 (NHRA Pro classes copied them in 2007). Both sports (especially NHRA Top Fuel and Funny Car) are better live than on TV (my opinion).

And yes, if the "3" car wins it will get a lot of press.
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Old 02-16-2014, 11:35 PM   #32
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To be honest, I felt the same way after Junior won the 500 in 2001. For the sake of my love for Dale Earnhardt Sr. I want so hard to believe Junior really won that race, and it wasn't a set up.
JR was dominant on the Super Speedways from 01-04
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Both DER cars (Waldrop and Jr) were strong in the restrictor plate races then.
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:56 AM   #34
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Do y'all think Spurrier would make it to Daytona every year to watch the race if he knew it was fixed ? Maybe you should point it out to him.
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:56 AM   #35
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Yep, NASCAR definitely fixes things so that popular and newsworthy events always happen. That's why Dale Jr. has already won 8 Championships
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:48 AM   #36
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nascar is a dying sport they had to bring the 3 car back for that reason
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:18 AM   #37
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Yeah, I find him winning the pole today was somewhat of a set up. It doesn't matter where you start, it is where you finish.
He's been at the top of the speed charts the last 2 weeks of speedweeks.
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nascar is a dying sport they had to bring the 3 car back for that reason
RCR owns the #3 not Nascar.

Edit: Technically yes Nascar owns all the numbers but as long as RCR purchases it every year, they control what is done or not done with it.
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Didn't know this thread existed. Anyways, I'll catch up.

Chase format: It's like France said "How can we make the Chase worse?" This isn't football, there is no need for a playoff in racing, a sport where every "team" plays every other "team" every week. In the NFL, you play 3 different teams twice a year, and 10 others once a year, so there are 17 teams that you don't play, hence the need for a playoff. Also, if the Chase worked, other racing series would've adopted it, and NASCAR wouldn't change the format every couple of years.

To those of you who think qualifying was fixed so Dillon would win, did you just ignore the fact that every car with a Childress engine qualified well and were among the fastest in every practice? They brought good engines to the track for the 500.

Also, in case anyone didn't know, Austin Dillon is a Gamecock fan. I thought that was pretty cool. A lot of people dislike him because they think the only reason he's in the Cup Series is because of his Grandpa, but he has a lot of talent, and I'm looking forward to seeing him race this season.
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