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Old 02-17-2014, 02:22 PM   #21
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I think Welch is a very good ball handler for a power forward , which is the position she plays most of the time . I think Tiffany is just an average ball-handler for a guard . Now when the game is on the line , I like the ball in Tiffany's hands . She's concentrating on her ballhandling then . A lot of her turnovers seem to come early , and with no one even guarding her close .
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Default Re: Mitchell vs. Welch

Tiffany is better overall with the ball in her hands but she does turn it over some but she is generally making attacking moves when this happens.

I think Tiffany is the grease in our machine but when we breakdown. A. W. is the one who takes control and gets us back on the road.

I think they are both very important and I am not sure which one we would be worse without.
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:03 PM   #23
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They play different positions, hard to say one is better than the other. Welch is very solid and dependable down low, but Mitchell is turning in to a star. Not many athletes better than her in the SEC.
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They play different positions, hard to say one is better than the other. Welch is very solid and dependable down low, but Mitchell is turning in to a star. Not many athletes better than her in the SEC.
But its obvious who is a better ballhandler
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Default Re: Mitchell vs. Welch

Tiffany has way too many turnovers and is careless with the ball sometimes but she is definitely the better ball handler. Welch isn't normally put in the position to be the primary ball handler.
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So we might end up having the SEC Player of the Year and Freshman of the Year playing for USC, that's great.
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:35 PM   #27
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Tiffany has way too many turnovers and is careless with the ball sometimes but she is definitely the better ball handler. Welch isn't normally put in the position to be the primary ball handler.
It depends what your criteria for "better" is. Mitchell is faster she should can do more behind the back and dribbles and between the legs and cross-overs. But I am old-school, ball security is the most important thing, next is being get by defenders and get near the basket. When you are turning the ball over you aren't really getting by defenders.
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Default Re: Mitchell vs. Welch

Mitchell averages 2.72 turnovers per game, Welch averages 1.88 per game. Considering that Welch is a post player and Mitchell is a guard and has the ball in her hands way more often, that really isn't too big of a difference. Tiffany Davis is the really turnover prone one, averaging 1.36 turnovers per game in only 12 minutes per game
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Mitchell averages 2.72 turnovers per game, Welch averages 1.88 per game. Considering that Welch is a post player and Mitchell is a guard and has the ball in her hands way more often, that really isn't too big of a difference. Tiffany Davis is the really turnover prone one, averaging 1.36 turnovers per game in only 12 minutes per game
TD has been better lately . She was a basket case when Sessions first got hurt . Fortunately Tina Roy showed she can play a little point . Roy probably protects the ball as well as anybody .
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TD has been better lately . She was a basket case when Sessions first got hurt . Fortunately Tina Roy showed she can play a little point . Roy probably protects the ball as well as anybody .
Yea, Roy just doesn't have the speed of the other guards
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Default Re: Mitchell vs. Welch

Both have the ability to take over a game when it is needed and that is why we are in the position we are in this year. If I got a vote for SEC player of the year I would chose AW. I think she has been the most consistent both on offense and defense.
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Minutes30.929.6
Points15.313.9
Rebounds5.37.6
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Blocks0.321.24
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^Outstanding stats for both players and then you throw in Elem, Alaina, Khadijah, Asia, etc. and we have some excellent players.
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Mitchell averages 2.72 turnovers per game, Welch averages 1.88 per game. Considering that Welch is a post player and Mitchell is a guard and has the ball in her hands way more often, that really isn't too big of a difference. Tiffany Davis is the really turnover prone one, averaging 1.36 turnovers per game in only 12 minutes per game
The majority of AW's turnovers are not of the ball-handling miscue variety. She gets offensive fouls because she goes to the rim often and those get counted as TO.
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The majority of AW's turnovers are not of the ball-handling miscue variety. She gets offensive fouls because she goes to the rim often and those get counted as TO.
Because she doesn't handle the ball that much, she lets the guards do their job...
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ESPNW names Tiffany one of the 10 biggest clutch players in WBB.
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I was just about to post the same thing

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Mitchell leads South Carolina in scoring at 15.3 points per game, shooting 52.5 percent from the field and 55.1 percent from the 3-point line. She has had a hand in more than 30 percent of South Carolina's scoring this season. -- espnW's Michelle Smith
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Lost power a few days and came back to Gamecock Country only to find the four letters(ESPN) sowing discord among the faithful. Everyone, quit thinking like a bunch of simple-minded taters and tell ESPN to take their 'versus' and shove it.

In team sports 'versus' furthers arguments; only AND wins championships. AW AND TM taking turns, EI AND AC spelling each other, AND all of the others stepping forward when their time comes to help the team is all that matters.

Guys, time to act like you've been there, give the Lady G's your full-throated support and save any arguments for the off-season. Just be glad this team understands the power of AND. It's a multiplier beyond compare.

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