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Old 02-20-2014, 06:46 PM   #41
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Why wouldn't they be?

Some guys are physically gifted, and have enough talent to get by with little or no extra effort. Derek Watson admitted in an interview that he never lifted weights in HS, and simply went through the motions here working out, because he felt like he didn't need to.

JD's one of those rare guys who are off the charts athletically. It's pretty clear he didn't put forth a Lattimore or Swearinger effort working out, and he was still a very good player.

Just think what he could've been with more effort? He clearly didn't look as quick this year, and I'm not overly sure I totally believe that he was asked to take it easy because we couldn't run plays.

What effect did his not putting out the effort have on other players? Quarles admitted he needed to step it up and put out more effort, who else might have slacked a bit because they were too caught up in the JD attention whirlwind?

I loved watching the guy play, he's one of those once in a lifetime talents that you're lucky to get to watch. And he apparently is a very nice young man, my stepdaughter knew him and always commented on how polite and friendly he is. But he even admitted himself if he had it all to do over again, he'd listen more to his coaches and follow their advice.
Nobody knows. What's the point in speculating? I am just thankful he came to Carolina. I was telling someone today that his great sense of humor and infectious laugh represented our University well. All in all, with all the scrutiny from the media, I think Clowney is an excellent representative. I don't fall for the negative media crap about him, nor the negative clemson spin on SOS's remarks.
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Old 02-20-2014, 08:11 PM   #42
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If you listen to the actual interview he was overall very complimentary of JD and thinks he should be first overall pick. He's really saying he can get even better with a pro work regimen. Comparing someone to Kearse and Peppers is about all you need to say.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:13 AM   #43
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It's pretty clear he didn't put forth a Lattimore or Swearinger effort working out, and he was still a very good player.
But you really don't know that....besides what SOS stated and what about '11 or '12? How about before "the hit"? Did you go to practices? Attend workout sessions?

People need to lay off the guy and go back and watch the 4th qtr. of our last game.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:45 AM   #44
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But you really don't know that....besides what SOS stated and what about '11 or '12? How about before "the hit"? Did you go to practices? Attend workout sessions?

People need to lay off the guy and go back and watch the 4th qtr. of our last game.
It's not secret info, Spurrier has alluded to it several times in a "nice" way without being overly critical.

It's also not secret info when other people associated with the program whisper about it.

And it's perfectly clear when you watch film from last season compared to his first two that he wasn't as quick or dominate. Yes, there were a lot of plays he was double teamed and schemed against, but there were also a lot of plays he was handled easily one on one.

You can sit back and marvel at the 4th qtr of our last game. I'll continue to appreciate him coming here and appreciate the publicity he gave the program, while still wondering just how better he could've played. The guy's ceiling is almost unlimited. He's by all accounts a great kid and hopefully will continue being a great representative of the program, and I'm sure it's tough playing under the pressure of being considered NFL ready when you're still a Sr in High School. You're being a bit touchy about him when he admitted he wished he'd have listened more to his coaches, which is an all encompassing self criticism.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:59 AM   #45
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I watched 30for30 on BoJackson (again) and he admits to constantly battling with Audurn coaches about practicetime effort. Bo was also a freak of freaks who turned it on when it was time.

Point is there are talents out there ever once in a while that are pure God given specimens of speed strength and coordination that man can improve only so much.
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Gregg Doyel wrote an article yesterday or the day before basically criticizing Spurrier for what he said in regards to Clowney's work ethic.

I really can't stand that guy. I don't want to sound like an "ESPN hates us", "CBS hates us", or "Gregg Doyel hates us" kind of guy, but it seems like Doyel takes any and every opportunity to blast Spurrier.

There was the thing about Ron Morris, the time early last season when Spurrier was questioning Clowney's injury, and now this.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:49 PM   #47
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Clowney and Peppers are very comparable, both have the same pros and cons. Genetic freak with a mediocre work ethic. HBC told it like it is, he knows what JD did and didn't do at practice.
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Spurrier cuts to the truth. There is no guessing about what he meant. Everything is so PC these days but he has no issues saying what needs to be said.
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Old 02-21-2014, 11:24 PM   #49
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If I recall Melvin had an issue w effort his first few years in Columbia...then the light came on. Clowney's will come on and it's gonna be nasty when it does.
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NFL Executives do value Spurrier's opinion because they know he will tell them the truth about Clowney. They will pick up the phone and call him to get the truth about work ethic.

Clowney has put himself in this position about questions with his work ethic. He has to convince GMs that he is willing to get better through hard work.
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I think that in spite of what any of us think, he is going to make a lot of money.
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I think that in spite of what any of us think, he is going to make a lot of money.
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:17 AM   #53
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To be fair Spurrier was comparing his work ethic to Lattimore. Lattimore would get up at 5am on Sunday and run stairs with a teammate whom was being punished for some reason.

I'm sure it was hard for Clowney to be motivated to do the extra things when everyone is making him slow down or making him take plays off in practice. And obviously he was late getting to team events. It's a little hypocritical to to criticize him, so I wish Spurrier would have been more clear about what it was that Clowney wasn't doing.
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I just hope it doesn't damage his relationship with the university.
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