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Old 02-23-2014, 05:47 PM   #21
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Old 02-23-2014, 05:55 PM   #23
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Because he wasn't drafted in the first round? Agreed.
But do that draft over again now with we do know, he goes round one.

But he's a 2 time pro bowler with 2 3,000+ yard seasons, 25+ Tds and 100+ passer rating.

If we are using the logic of where they were drafted, then Alshon Jeffery is an average WR.
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Because he wasn't drafted in the first round? Agreed.
But do that draft over again now with we do know, he goes round one.

But he's a 2 time pro bowler with 2 3,000+ yard seasons, 25+ Tds and 100+ passer rating.

This is still the prevailing opinion. Greg Cosell was talking about it this past week on the radio.
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Old 02-23-2014, 07:42 PM   #25
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Not really bout unfavorable things bout a guy from our school just knew people would know who he is from that...some of the other things he has said seem like more so people would know who he is. He is saying a LB and No. 1. Forgot the name of the guy he said but the connected analyst have not even put this Lb in the top 5.

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Um, if younare referencing Khalil Mack, he most certainly is in many a Top 5
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Old 02-23-2014, 07:47 PM   #26
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I always liked the dude for all these years he's worked on NFLN. Him saying unfavorable things about a player from my school won't change that.
What do you like about him? I hate watching Thursday games because of him. Can't stand his commentary.
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What do you like about him? I hate watching Thursday games because of him. Can't stand his commentary.
Big fan of him and brad for Thursday night games.

He's always giving great color commentary, and Brad Nessler is one of the best play by play guys in the business.


Definitely better than Buck and Aikman, but that's not saying much
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Bad analogy..another talent vs. work ethic. Nobody questioned whether Alshon was good enough to be a 1, people questioned his work ethic. Lots of people had AJ1 as a top 10 and then Alshon got too big his Jr. year, that's a fact. He dropped weight before the draft but the damage was already done. These people are looking at this from an NFL executive standpoint. Is this dude talented? Yes. Am I concerned with his work ethic and drive? Yes. So teams have to weigh that out. And evidently Mayock must not have been that far off seeing as how Alshon..yanno..didn't go in the 1st round.
Incorrect. Many did and said he could not ever be a deep threat and only a possession wr.

I do agree that JD has some red flags but he has way more postives than negatives.

I would also say that R. Wilson is an above avg NFL qb for sure.
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Give me a break. Anybody who said JD ought to be a good citizen like Sammy "The Puff Dragon" is so full of shit it'd take a front end loader to take him to the dump, no pun intended.
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i like Mayock.....i just dont understand how someone can question a guys "off the field problems" when he has never been arrested but then in the same breathe praise Sammy Watkins and talk about how he is on a mission to be the best WR of all time and completely ignore his off the field issues.....

honestly i felt like he was just trying to say something against clowney for some unknown reason lol.....i dont get it
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:31 PM   #31
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I wonder how HIGH Sammy's emotions would be if he was taken by a team in Colorado or Washington.
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I always thought that was a really odd opinion. The seahawks are excellent for sure, but the outside of RB and FB, their offense around Wilson is average. WR and OL, two positions that are often cited as "making a QB look good", are the two worst collective units on the entire team. They have Okung and Unger but the rest of their line is mediocre. Harvin is their only great WR , but he is too small to be a true #1 and he played one regular season game. They have solid guys that they can move the chains with but nobody getting many extra yards for Wilson, and they are a run first team. His stats are far from impressive but he hasn't been put into as great a situation as his detractors like to think.
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Unfortunately that is how a majority of outsiders and some Gamecocks view Connor. Guess he will have to peove them wrong...AGAIN
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If you're getting double and tripled team you'd be tired too. JD will go #1 or 2.
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It's fine for Gamecock fans to bring up Alshon as an example for how NFL teams have clearly 'missed', but unless you said Troy Williamson wasn't worthy of a Day 1 selection, then I can't chalk it up to anything but the usual fan bias. Sorry, but we're not NFL scouts for a reason, and even those professionals have their obvious limitations. Retrospectively judging a player's merits as a draft prospect without knowing how another team may have influenced his value now is always an issue, anyway.
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Is he better than McShay? McShay has been more accurate than him 4 out of the last 5 drafts. If you want to listen to guys like him go ahead and do it to your heart's desire. I personally think they are a waste of time and are wrong more than they are right.
Being more accurate in the draft = better predicting where teams want to take players. It speaks nothing to how good McShay or Mayock are at talent evaluation. I know someone who runs a draft site, and he routinely puts players in his first and 2nd round that he personally wouldn't draft until late or at all... because he knows teams would instead.
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This is still the prevailing opinion. Greg Cosell was talking about it this past week on the radio.
That's a pretty dumb prevailing opinion, then. You don't grab the starting QB job, as a relatively unheralded rookie, on a team that just had a marquee free agent signing... with average talent. Considering everything he's accomplished so far (the Seahawks are talented, but to say he hasn't held up his end and more would be misleading), you'd have a hard time convincing me there are 10 QBs (I'd argue way less) you'd rather have on your team.
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