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Old 02-25-2014, 02:52 AM   #161
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Count the cross-field and downfield tackles Clowney made. There were several factors that limited his stat production this year.

Crappy linebacker play for the first three-fourths of the season. (The coaches all said it caused the DL to not play their assignments.)

Quick-throw one and two-step schemes.

Running away from Clowney's side.

Throws into gaps behind Clowney.

Doubles and triples.

A couple of injuries (foot and ribs).
good post.....points
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:07 AM   #162
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....at the combine, yes......over the last month or so, he has gotten a number of very positive reviews. It seems like he is clearly a 2nd round player......maybe late 1st round.
Quarles will be a 3rd round pick.
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Old 02-25-2014, 05:31 AM   #163
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Deke famously said in one of his first interviews that he wasn't going to "mess Clowney up" when he kept getting asked what it was going to be like to coach him. The thinking was, if it's not broke, don't fix it. I think that was the absolute wrong approach in hindsight, Clowney had a lot of work to do on techniques in general and understanding how he could best influence games in particular. Adams may need to rethink that line of reasoning in the future.
Deke tried to work on Clowney's technique. Clowney wouldn't listen. Quarles gave Deke a lot of credit. I don't think you can look at Clowney's performance this year as an indictment of Deke. It says more about Clowney.

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Old 02-25-2014, 07:19 AM   #164
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Deke tried to work on Clowney's technique. Clowney wouldn't listen. Quarles gave Deke a lot of credit. I don't think you can look at Clowney's performance this year as an indictment of Deke. It says more about Clowney.
And where did you hear that from?
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Old 02-25-2014, 10:16 AM   #165
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In Kelcy Quarles' combine scouting report, under weaknesses, it says: "Does not generate powerful hand violence."

I triple-dog-dare that scout to say those words to Kelcy's face! I bet plenty of powerful hand violence would pursue!
May be a valid criticism.

Ed Orgeron is a pretty good DL coach despite other knocks against him, and I read an interview where he stated one of the first things he notices when recruiting DLinemen is how they use their hands.
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Old 02-25-2014, 10:25 AM   #166
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In Kelcy Quarles' combine scouting report, under weaknesses, it says: "Does not generate powerful hand violence."

I triple-dog-dare that scout to say those words to Kelcy's face! I bet plenty of powerful hand violence would pursue!

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...les?id=2543648


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Old 02-25-2014, 10:26 AM   #167
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Anyone see the interview with Clowney with the NFL desk guys? He was told that the Texans have a tough DL coach and was asked how he would handle being pushed.

Clowney said that he use to have a DL that pushed him...Brad Lawing.

I hope SOS was watching, because that should make him mad, for it indicates that Deke did not or does not push his guys to go all out.
I wouldn't put too much stock in that.

JD likely brought up Lawing because he has a long reputation of being an "in your face" coach. Deke's style is probably different, but even Kelcy stated after the UGA game that Deke got on him and motivated him to play better.

Read Stephen White's critique on JD in the SBNation article someone else linked. While he raved about JD's athleticism and potential, he also pointed out (from an NFL perspective) that it appeared JD hadn't been "coached up" at all, because his fundamentals were lacking.

That falls more on Lawing than anyone, and JD himself stated one of his biggest regrets is that he didn't listen to his coaches.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:01 AM   #168
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Horrible 40 for Vic. 4.62 unofficial which likely moves closer to a 4.7.

Not good.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:10 AM   #169
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Horrible 40 for Vic. 4.62 unofficial which likely moves closer to a 4.7.

Not good.
Yea I saw that. Rough!!!
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:12 AM   #170
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Horrible 40 for Vic. 4.62 unofficial which likely moves closer to a 4.7.

Not good.
Not many undersized CBs in the league that run slower than 4.5 and can't jump 40 inch vert.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:14 AM   #171
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Better 2nd run

4.5 unofficial.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:49 AM   #172
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Idk why Vic isn't getting much love, the nfl combine website has bashaud breeland graded higher (5.55 compared to Vic's 5.28). 20 reps on bench is pretty impressive too
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:54 AM   #173
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Deion just gave Victor Hampton props along with Mayock.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:55 AM   #174
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Vic just got some love. 40 time is important, but not the end of the world. Joe Hayden said technique and knowledge for the game are the most important things NFL coaches look for at the combine when looking at DBs. Looking at these corners, Hampton does seem like one of the most technically sound. They just said Hampton has a 2nd rd. grade, but his off-the-field concerns may hurt him some.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:56 AM   #175
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Didn't see that online, what'd he say?
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Didn't see that online, what'd he say?
Prime time said " I really like this kid. He's a banger." And He just said again about Victor when he came up for his drill. I really like this kid.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:08 PM   #177
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Crap on the forty! I was sure he would run a sub 4.5. Ouch!
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richard sherman ran a 4.56 and he's the best corner in the nfl, at least by his standards. lob.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:17 PM   #179
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Vic with a lot of love in the drills.

"Quick feet"

"Great hands"
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:27 PM   #180
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Correct me if I'm wrong. Based on official times, our guys ranked as following:

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