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Old 02-26-2014, 09:41 AM   #41
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:43 AM   #42
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This is a great time for a teaching moment. Explain to him how corporations will continue to rip him off the rest of his life. He should seek out small businesses and local sources for his products and services and avoid the big box stores as much as possible. This is a prime opportunity to suggest that he and his friends should find other entertainment venues. Offer to buy a baseball mitt and teach him the game. Playing outdoors is much better for a kid's brain development than playing video games anyway.
First you should ask if his son plays outside before you tell him to make his son play outside. You are assuming a lot as well as others in here.
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:58 AM   #43
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Me. I hate online games. Some people don't care about games so much that they are okay paying monthly for it. I am already paying for internet and electricity and am paying for the game. This is why I am getting a PS4. Better non-online games selection for me. And I don't need all that may games. I have saves in PS2 games logging over 200 hours and never beat. On my PC I am still playing friggin Morrowind! (heavily modded of course.)
Agreed. I can just grab the Elder Scrolls suite of games and have non-stop action for the next few years.

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Old 02-26-2014, 10:29 AM   #44
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You could sell it back to Gamestop for 50 cents.
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Free on the computer with a regular internet subscription. So there's that.

Microsoft charges you for using Youtube...


Their disingenuous and deceptive behavior is the reason they're struggling right now. Few people support their behavior, including our one and only Diehard.
This information is not true. If you are a Time Warner customer, cable provider for Columbia and most of SC, you have to also have a cable package that includes ESPN. Information is here for ESPN3/WatchESPN - http://espn.go.com/watchespn/about

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Old 02-26-2014, 10:50 AM   #46
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Actually, for those of you who are having a hard time understanding, I'll explain it for you. My son has the original game Plants vs Zombies, and I know it is quite appropriate for his age, so when he saw this was coming out, he didn't read anything about it BECAUSE HE'S A KID. And since I knew about the first game and how it worked, I had no reason to think this game would be set up any differently.

But feel free to go back to being judgmental asses about a kid's disappointment.

As for me buying him 360 and a PS4, he definitely did not get them at the same time. He's had the 360 for quite a while, and even then it was a hand-me-down system. But I at least understand your point, and I know you didn't know he had one system for a long time.
Totally understand the frustration. If you are planning on buying a game day 1, I would reserve it with Gamestop to purchase there. I know some of their stores have bad service, but a lot of them would have asked you if you have a Gold membership when selling it. Walmart/Target/Best Buy is VERY unlikely to provide that info, or even know or care.
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Well I am not about playing with friends. I don't play well with others, I don't even play games that often. I get bored then I pick up a new game or an old one that I like and play for a good long while until eventually and inevitably get bored for playing games again. The reason I am leaning toward PS4 is because I prefer the RPG types. Other than that. I like to have like one good shooter game, one good golf game, one good college football game, like a Dynasty Warriors kind of game.
Even though ESO is an MMORPG I have found that I can play it solo just fine. Grab a beta key and play free this weekend. I'll be playing the beta of the new Diablo expansion this week. This past couple of weeks i have been running through Fallout 3 again.

For the OP, yeah that sucks and, yeah, it is not the fault of MS. Y'all should be able to get your money's worth of action from the Live membership over the year though. May as well have fun with it.
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:13 PM   #48
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Free on the computer with a regular internet subscription. So there's that.

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Sadly I think a lot of games are starting to get that way. It will not be long before a Gold membership or PS Plus membership is required to turn the consoles on. In regards to Microsoft, they have always been greedy. Just look at the windows updates, they run $300 plus and can just about be upgraded every year. A lot of developers are developing online only games and games that require the online play ability. It's a money market. I have a ps4 and have noticed it. Even Sony is making it a requirement to pay to play online when the ps3 online play was free. If it improves the servers I don't mind paying $50 a year though.
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Agreed. I can just grab the Elder Scrolls suite of games and have non-stop action for the next few years.

Single Player > Multiplayer

You must be referring to the previous ones. The newest one that comes out in June will be $60 for the game then $17 a month to play because it is online based. Not to mention the PS PLus or Xbox Live membership you pay for. It is pretty ridiculous. That is one game I will not be purchasing. All the others are fantastic though in single player.
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Agreed. I can just grab the Elder Scrolls suite of games and have non-stop action for the next few years.

Single Player > Multiplayer
If you have legit copies of Skyrim, Oblivion, and Morrowind. Than you can play Skywind, and Skyblivion, and Morroblivion. Although I don't think they are all finshed.
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I love all the over the top, butthurt anti-capitalism in this thread. Good job, republicans.

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Old 02-26-2014, 03:36 PM   #54
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I don't see any anti capitalism. Saying I am not going to buy something because it's not worth it IS me participating in capitalism. Don't get political, I just got back from being banned for that.
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I my opinion anytime you buy a game that requires XBL, it should come with one month free of XBL (or include in the price of the game) so you can at least play the game. It's not about, being against what the companies are trying to do to make money, but doing it a better way for customers.
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I my opinion anytime you buy a game that requires XBL, it should come with one month free of XBL (or include in the price of the game) so you can at least play the game. It's not about, being against what the companies are trying to do to make money, but doing it a better way for customers.
A lot of games used to come with a 48 hour pass. Some came with a month. I guess they figure everybody that wants it has it by now.

If one cannot afford $5/month for LIVE or PSN, video games probably aren't the best use of disposable income. If one simply chooses not to purchase it, that's their choice.

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? If nothing else this thread is the epitome of capitalism. Choosing to not buy or showing your dislike for a company gives other companies a foothold into the market. Without that capitalism would not exist.

If it were anti-capitalism the op would have just paid the money with no complaints and thanked MS for allowing him to make that mistake.
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A lot of games used to come with a 48 hour pass. Some came with a month. I guess they figure everybody that wants it has it by now.

If one cannot afford $5/month for LIVE or PSN, video games probably aren't the best use of disposable income. If one simply chooses not to purchase it, that's their choice.

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That equals what $60 bucks a year. I spend like half that a year in games and I and enjoy them just fine. All I am saying is take the guess work out of the equation and include one month in the game or if they already have XBL give them a discount or rebate.
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Whining about companies being "greedy" by charging for their product smacks of butthurt. I find it boring as hell.

Anywhoo...y'all have fun. I'm off to play on LIVE....because 'murica.

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That equals what $60 bucks a year. I spend like half that a year in games and I and enjoy them just fine. All I am saying is take the guess work out of the equation and include one month in the game or if they already have XBL give them a discount or rebate.
I understand what you're saying...they used to do that...can't remember exactly when it stopped, but it's been a while now.

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